Is Lumix 20mm f/1.7 lense (pancake) must have in addition to the 14-140mm?

Do you think that Panasonic will come out with the internal focusing mechanism such as the 14-140mm?
I was also thinking about doing video capturing using the 20mm pancake for capturing the moving object.
 
Maybe someone that has both lenses could do 2 comparison photos with the same aperture/shutter/iso settings? same image section too, of course...that'll be great!
 
Ben_B said:
The thing about the 20mm is that it is actually sharp wide-open. Is the voigtlander actually sharp at f/0.95? From what I've seen the answer is no. Whereas this is some stuff I've done with the 20mm wide open:

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You completely sold me on the 20mm 1.7!

Just one question: You're using the 20mm on a Canon? Was the first picture taken with a Canon as well? I thought you couldn't use M43 lenses on Canon DSLRs.
 
Pietro Impagliazzo said:
You completely sold me on the 20mm 1.7!

Just one question: You're using the 20mm on a Canon? Was the first picture taken with a Canon as well? I thought you couldn't use M43 lenses on Canon DSLRs.
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Yea, its a great one. I will get it too.
I don't think the second shot was in a mirror, so he was using the 20mm on a gh1 taking a pictures of the canon guy.

*I suspect the nature of the optics will allow for use with a Raynox 6600 wide converter, giving a clean wide stopped down to 2.5 at the very least. (wink wink)
 
You are correct - if its so sharp and so fast, then a wide converter should give a reasonably sharp and fast lens for very low cost. But I've tried holding a few of my wide converters in front of my 20 f1.7 and cant seem to get them to focus. It is possible not all wide converters will work with this lens?
 
Ian-T said:
I believe he took a picture of someone shooting on a Canon....not a self portrait.
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Assumed it was a mirror and since I couldn't read the what the lens was, assumed it was the 20mm... Too much assuming! :)

And now I can read it's a lensbaby composer... Oh the laziness.
 
I love my pancake, its great for low light BUT the focusing is awful! AF is nowhere close to the 14-140 and I dont like the long throw of the manual focus ring. Still I use it all the time and especially love the size and weight. I would recommend it.
 
OK, I've only had my 20mm pancake for like 15 minutes, but I love it! I can tell already for video and for stills, this is going to be a main tool in my arsenal. Sharp as a tack but that lovely f1.7 shallow DOF. And I attached a wide angle converter on it an-BOOM-instant wide angle fast prime! It still looks sharp! I'll upload some still and perhaps a Vimeo when I get home, but suddenly my search for an expensive fast wide prime is over, I think! Oh...and the wide adapter I have ($79 Richarm I got at an outlet mall) can be unscrewed to reveal a macro attachment. I just shot some insane macro close-ups at f1.7. Very, very versatile and very easy to use. As Droopy says: "You know what?....I'm happy."
 
So, upon looking at the stills in Photoshop and some footage in FCP, my happiness is tempered just a little bit by reality. Of course, the $79 wide-angle adapter introduces some softness, a touch of barrel distortion, and a little chromatic aberration in the corners of the image. So, not so good for stills, but still useful for video IMO. Why? Because if I use it as a lens for close-ups, the edges of the image are most likely soft already because of bokeh. The adapter I have turns the 20mm into a 14mm (28mm FF equivalent). And I'll tell ya, having an f1.7 28mm is pretty cool! Check out the image below.

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dvbrother said:
So, upon looking at the stills in Photoshop and some footage in FCP, my happiness is tempered just a little bit by reality. Of course, the $79 wide-angle adapter introduces some softness, a touch of barrel distortion, and a little chromatic aberration in the corners of the image. So, not so good for stills, but still useful for video IMO. Why? Because if I use it as a lens for close-ups, the edges of the image are most likely soft already because of bokeh. The adapter I have turns the 20mm into a 14mm (28mm FF equivalent). And I'll tell ya, having an f1.7 28mm is pretty cool! Check out the image below.
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Cool to know! I once bought a super-cheap WA for one of my Sony HDV cams (also one that had the macro option by removing the WA part) and it didn't look very good at all. But man, it would be worth it just for a couple of shots at wedding receptions, the cake cutting and bokay/garter toss, for example, where the 20mm can be just a TINY bit to narrow sometimes. Using the kit lens at a wedding reception just isn't an option.
 
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