is AI gonna take our jobs?

---> 2085 <---

Jane: What's that?

Johnny: The a7SIII. I got it on ebay2.0.

Jane: Does it still work? lol

Johnny: Yeah, but I had to get these cards to put the pictures and videos on them.

Jane: There's no AI_cloud?

Johnny: No, it's from like 2020. And I have to transfer everything myself.

Jane: Wow.

Johnny: I think Gen Z used it, lol.
 
NorBro said:
It's not for you (us)...like what's a one-man band sports videographer towards the end of his career, etc. going to do with AI, you know?

Play around with it a little here and there, maybe read something once a week, month, and that's it.

It is for big companies, lots of projects, services, departments, software, hardware...anywhere you can get it in. Larger than life money.

That's "the people"...at least I think so.

But now if you're planning on changing careers...
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I agree. There might be some use cases but overall, not much impact at my level. So "embracing AI" is kind of here nor there for most folks outside of Larger then Life money.

This thread has been very illuminating for me though. The concept of AI running out of fresh (free/stolen) material is quite an angle. Makes the gold rush seem a little precarious?
 
Bassman2003 said:
:) I do not do that! Maybe someday.
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I think Tom's referring to customer service chatbots. You probably talk to some now and then?

I have 1 project that may get the green light that will almost certainly use some Sora-generated stuff. And I have 1 project I'm about to start editing that might use Sora. Prior to these, I've only ever used 1 AI-generated shot (by RunwayML) in an edit. Every other time I tried to use AI-generated stuff we ended up buying stock footage instead.

But I use generated stills a lot. Or more often stills that are edited using generative AI. It's been really useful for fixing backgrounds in static shots. I even used it to expand the backgrounds of candid family portraits to fit into circular custom tree ornaments. So there is generative AI hanging on our tree right now.

I agree with you that the gold rush is very precarious. But media production is just the tip of the iceberg. Most of the AI money is going to be made elsewhere. It's probably like how computers and the internet have been incorporated into nearly every industry. AI is just new forms of computing. For example, last year's Chemistry Nobel Prize winners used AI:
  • "Hassabis and Jumper were recognized for the development of an AI system that cracked one of biology's toughest problems: predicting the structure of a protein."
 
Yes. This is a tricky topic. I am not a luddite on the subject but showing any disdain moves the proponents to think that. The whole thing seems like machine learning 2.0 rather than "intelligence" to me. So out of the gate, I do not like the verbiage around AI.

It is and will be useful as well as being overhyped and stupid at the same time. That is our world!
 
Everyone learned what they know from somewhere else. Your artistic ideas are rooted in what you have already seen. When your renditions are directed toward reproductions or copies, they can infringe on IP copyrights. That's a danger, but the rules of infringement will make its way into the algorithms as the technology develops.

It doesn't have to infringe on IP for its usefulness right now. Whether its studying every image on YouTube, or reading every page of every technical manual, or reading every page of the U.S. tax code, it's processing information faster than any human can. It's able to present information as answers to a query in a legible way, handle followup and acknowledge conflicting information.
 
Tom Roper said:
the rules of infringement will make its way into the algorithms as the technology develops.
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You're advocating copyright infringement on a massive scale for an indefinite time. I'm not sure what other type of crime people would feel comfortably publicly advocating.
 
Tom Roper said:
I don't advocate infringement, nor have I done so by not agreeing with alarmist hysteria.
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Alarmist hysteria? The thing is shown to crank out copyrighted images at the drop of a hat. It doesn't even know when it's doing it. And I have no way of knowing if it's giving me a copyrighted images to use.
 
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Lina Khan was right. From a speech she gave last march: "As in prior moments of contestation, we are starting to hear the argument that America must protect its domestic monopolies to ensure we stay ahead on the global stage. Rather than double down on promoting free and fair competition, this “national champions” argument holds that coddling our dominant firms is the path to maintaining global dominance."
 
what's all this alarmist hysteria












lol, j/k - saw Tom's post above and liked the way that sounded
 
Looks like NVIDIA stock will post big declines today as the world realizes you can run AI with far fewer GPUs thanks to the efficiency breakthroughs engineered by the DeepSeek team.
 
ahalpert said:
Lina Khan was right. From a speech she gave last march: "As in prior moments of contestation, we are starting to hear the argument that America must protect its domestic monopolies to ensure we stay ahead on the global stage. Rather than double down on promoting free and fair competition, this “national champions” argument holds that coddling our dominant firms is the path to maintaining global dominance."
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Gosh this kind of sums up where we are right now as a nation. It is easy to puff your chest out and yell at all of the party poopers so to speak, but not so easy to see the reality. Lina Khan came to be disliked in the larger business world because she was raining on parades with truths. But those folks have the loudest voices so they get the most attention and their thoughts are adopted as the best way because they are wealthy and successful etc...

This OpenAI vs the rest of the world looks like it is going to get interesting. While the Nvidia story is a great one, nobody wants to spend themselves into oblivion if they do not have to. GPUs being great and all... But there is always a state supported component to large successful Chinese companies, so there is probably more to be told in this saga.
 
Bassman2003 said:
Gosh this kind of sums up where we are right now as a nation. It is easy to puff your chest out and yell at all of the party poopers so to speak, but not so easy to see the reality. Lina Khan came to be disliked in the larger business world because she was raining on parades with truths. But those folks have the loudest voices so they get the most attention and their thoughts are adopted as the best way because they are wealthy and successful etc...

This OpenAI vs the rest of the world looks like it is going to get interesting. While the Nvidia story is a great one, nobody wants to spend themselves into oblivion if they do not have to. GPUs being great and all... But there is always a state supported component to large successful Chinese companies, so there is probably more to be told in this saga.
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I have no idea who is behind DeepSeek, but they have published papers detailing their methodology. Their claims about creating comparable AI models for a fraction of the cost withstand peer review. In essence, this means that monopolistic corporations with unlimited capital will not be able to spend their way into dominating society for the next century. AI technology will be widely accessible and therefore undermine monopoly instead of reinforcing it. I have many, many reservations about AI but this is good news. It's also good news if it means there will be radically lower power draw and carbon emissions to feed the machines.

Here's a hit on how the UK is trying to alter copyright law to let AI rip off artists and how musicians are rallying against the legislation:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1883886080182931922
 
I said on the last page that I thought those copyright laws/violations are of yesteryear and I guess the UK is the first to try to change them...not unexpected but the attempt is taking place faster than I imagined; thought maybe they'd let it all play out some more.
 
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