Inception Ripped-Off Scrooge McDuck & The Beagle Boys ?

Kwan

Kwan

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First thing... it is a amazing film and nolan is legend, and I'm seriously doubt Nolan sits around reading Scrooge McDuck

But, Can it be True That Inception was based off of the comic book story, Dream of a Lifetime from the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck (by Cal Bark not by Don Rosa)?

Note: Cal Barks is one of the great American storytellers. His work inspired not only the Ducktails series...

http://disneycomics.free.fr/Ducks/Rosa/show.php?num=1&loc=D2002-033&s=date

Dream of a Life Time panel: The Beagle Boys procure a contraption that was invented for psychiatrists to examine dreams by entering their patients' dreams, and the Beagle Boys intend to use the contraption for a different, illegal purpose.
Inception scene: The team procures a contraption that was invented for soldiers to train in simulated combat and warfare, and the team intends to use the contraption for a different, illegal purpose.

Dream of a Life Time panel: The Beagle Boys use the contraption to enter into McDuck's dream so they can attempt to extract the secret combination to unlock McDuck's vault.
Inception scene: The team uses the contraption to enter into Saito's dream so they can attempt to extract an undisclosed idea from the vault in his head. (opening scene)

Dream of a Life Time panel(s): If the Beagle Boys are still in McDuck's dream when he wakes up, they will be trapped in McDuck's head forever.
Inception scene: If someone is killed while in the dream of a heavily sedated dreamer, he will be trapped in the dream in a state called "limbo" -- which can last several decades.

Dream of a Life Time panel(s): Scrooge McDuck is aware that he is in a dream, and his subconscious characters, the Dalton Boys, shoot at the Beagle Boys upon encounter.
Inception scene: Saito is aware that he is in a dream, and his subconscious security guards shoot at Dom and capture Arthur.

Dream of a Life Time panel(s): The dream world starts to "evaporate" and defies the laws of physics.
Inception scene: The dream world starts to crumble and bend and defies the laws of physics.

Dream of a Life Time panel(s): When McDuck falls in the dream, he wakes up.
Inception scene: When a dreamer dies in the dream (while not heavily sedated), he wakes up.

Dream of a Life Time panel(s): McDuck travels from Texas to Australia simply by starting a new dream.
Inception scene: The team travels from apparently Los Angeles to Canada simply by entering a new dream.

Dream of a Life Time panel(s): When McDuck's nephew clangs two mugs together loudly next to Donald's ear while he's dreaming, Donald dreams about mugs falling from the sky.
Inception Scene: When Dom is dunked in water while dreaming, Dom dreams about water gushing at him.

Dream of a Life Time panel(s): When Donald Duck thinks about cars, a stream of cars busts through his dream.
Inception Scene: When Dom thinks about a train, a train busts through the dream.

Dream of a Life Time panel(s): When McDuck hears popping while he's sleeping, he dreams about popcorn popping.
Inception scene: When Yusuf drinks too much champagne before sleeping, he dreams about it raining.

Dream of a Life Time panel(s): Scrooge McDuck re-dreams one particular memory over and over again, which involves him missing out on his love, Goldie, because he gets hit in the head by an ice block.
Inception scene: Dom re-dreams one particular memory over and over again, which involves him losing his love, Mal, because she kills herself.

Dream of a Life Time panel(s): Through his dream, Scrooge McDuck tries to make it up to Goldie by reliving a memory of the two of them together.
Inception scene: Through his dream, Dom tries to make it up to Mal by reliving a memory of the two of them together.
 
while everything serves as inspiration for everything else, you might be on to something.

although... i gotta say, the notion that what happens in reality affects what you're dreaming about isn't new/original at all.

can't say the same for the other 'coincidences'.

that duck tails story was probably based on something earlier still.

i really won't be surprised if this whole concept is based on some old norse mythology, or a tale out of the 1001 arabian nights, or x or y or z.

that's why i say time and again, if you want to write good stuff, just read old books.
 
I agree with everything you just said Fahad.

Maybe this justifies why I still like (some) cartoons. I swear when I saw a thread titled "dexter" I hoped it was for Dexter's Laboratory. You can learn a lot about film making by studying cartoons. They're made by industry people with talent and creativity that transcends genres... plus, not ONE thing that happens in a cartoon is an accident... it's all very intentional with almost zero variables of chance.

All of this begs the question Kwan... did you discover this on your own or did somebody else point it out? :)
 
Fox TV here in Chicago, used to run episodes of the Honeymooners at night and the Flinstones eps based on the particular show in the mornings. The bowling eps of both shows stick out in my mind for some reason because they were so close in similarity.

-Nate
 
MattinSTL said:
Maybe this justifies why I still like (some) cartoons. I swear when I saw a thread titled "dexter" I hoped it was for Dexter's Laboratory. You can learn a lot about film making by studying cartoons. They're made by industry people with talent and creativity that transcends genres... plus, not ONE thing that happens in a cartoon is an accident... it's all very intentional with almost zero variables of chance.
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i love dexter's lab. one of the funniest later cartoons. i've always thought of movies as cartoons for grownups. all the rules apply, but with real people, not drawings.

Chris Light said:
Tom & Jerry = Home Alone. So what?
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so what? this is a gold mine of inspiration. i can think of at least a dozen cartoon classics that could inspire movies.
 
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Fahad said:
please do tell!
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Some of the best stuff we saw when we were kids. It wouldn't surprise me if he'd read the book and years later it came out of him like this. I created a superhero and someone pointed out to me that he was basically a "G-Force" (Battle of the Planets) inspired character. I did use their costume as inspiration but even more things were pointed out that I didn't even think about until he showed it to me.

-Nate
 
Nathyn said:
Some of the best stuff we saw when we were kids. It wouldn't surprise me if he'd read the book and years later it came out of him like this. I created a superhero and someone pointed out to me that he was basically a "G-Force" (Battle of the Planets) inspired character. I did use their costume as inspiration but even more things were pointed out that I didn't even think about until he showed it to me.

-Nate
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yup. this is exactly what i'm talking about.

and what i'm talking about isn't anything new, either.

Bad artists copy. Good artists steal.
- Pablo Picasso
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i was discussing with a friend a story idea i had. it had a timeloop as a plot device. so every loop the protagonist learns something new and becomes better. my friend said 'so, like groundhog day?' and i replied "damn it!". but i shouldn't have, because other than those two elements, it was nothing like groundhog day.
 
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