In camera Grain

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HVXSHROPSHIRE

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I notice that all of my footage I shoot on my HVX has considerable grain to it. My gain is at 0 is there a way to get absolutely no grain while shooting in 1080 or 720? Is it just a progressive issue? If i shoot in Interlaced formats will it go away? My friend owns an Sony EX1 and his footage is crystal clear as if you were seeing it with your own eyes and my footage seems to have considerable more grain to it and looks more like film. How do I get rid of the grain completely to get that crystal clear image like on his???
 
It's inherent in the camera. I believe the HVX people call it, "organic". However, if you want a clean image, you can help yourself by using plenty of daylight balanced light. More light makes any video camera offer a cleaner image.

But the HVX will never shoot as clean an image as the EX1 in the same light. Very different sensors and technology at work.
 
That was the big improvement of the 200a. Much less noise in the picture, and able to shoot lower light situations. Otherwise, more light makes less noise.
 
interesting, but like I asked, is there a way to get rid of it completely with normal lighting conditions? or do you have to light the **** out of a scene just to get it less grainy as possible? Is there no way in camera to adjust the grain to negative levels??? Will my shutter speed effect the grain, or "Organicness" of my picture?
 
I'd like to see a grab from the OP of a properly lit scene. Also, please submit a grab of a foreground subject lit to between 2.8 and 4 at 0dB gain with no additional lighting behind the subject.

The grain in the HVX is greatly overstated. Usually by people who don't light. I've lit dozens of interviews with the HVX where the background is at less than 50% of the value of the foreground (see any of the sit-downs I shot for Resolved, currently on HBOHD or HBO ONDemand) with no discernable grain (organic noise or whatever). Still, these interviews were properly lit with key, fill and rim or kicker. Sometimes I'd add a fourth 150w or 300w fixture for a little highlight in the background.

Also, I recommend avoiding mid-tones in your setting whenever possible. Beige and other mid-earthy tone settings are the worst. Even a poorly lit white wall will fall into that mid-gray, and that can exhibit more grain as well.

For the same reason you avoid the mids in 500T motion picture stocks. I don't want to go as far as saying that the 200 should be treated just like a 500T stock, but you have to light for it nonetheless.

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