Image glitch on the HVX200

OCFilmsSean

OCFilmsSean

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Hi,

So I have been shooting with the HVX for 8 months now. I am relatively happy. There is a issue that I am having with the camera. The picture "jumps" usually during a pan. It is like the image skips forward a few frames. This is visible when I am on set through the eyepiece, the lcd viewfinder and a monitor. At first I though it might be something related to a spanned clip and not actually something that is recorded. I had not seen this "jump" actually be recorded until my last shoot. I may not be describing this correctly, but does this sound familiar to anyone else? I am considering sending the camera in under warranty.

Thank you,
Sean
 
Thank you

Thank you

Thank you Barry. Was this discussed in past threads? If so, I was unsure how to find it.

Is this going to be something that Panasonic has plans on fixing through firmware?

Sean
 
It is nothing that requires fixing -- it is normal for image stabilization systems, they should not be used when the camera is on a tripod.

What you are seeing is the OIS trying to keep the image steady as you pan, initially it is unable to differentiate between camera shake (what it is designed for) and intentional movement.

Eventually it either figures out that this is not camera shake, or it reaches the limits of its compensation range, and then the image snaps back.
 
OIS is more of a personal camcorder or ENG Camera feature and not a pro camera feature. It is for "videotaping" and It should be avoided in film making just like auto-focus auto-white balance, and using the zoom toggles.
 
Arson,
I disagree. While OIS is normally found on camcorder/ENG cameras, when shooting hand held with or without a handheld stabilizer, Panasonic's OIS (which is mechanical) can certainly help make the image steadier. This can have its uses in narrative film making, as well as run and gun situations.

I assume that by zoom toggle you mean the rocker? Granted the HVX's zoom rockers are fairly bad, specially the jump at the beginning. But as I recall the F-900s, and Varicams of the world could hardly be considered personal camcorders and they too come with a zoom rocker (Well technically they don't, but most of their lenses do). Then again, they also come with a star filter built into the filter wheel...

"videotaping" is exactly what you are doing if you are using the HVX. At no point are you actually "filming", since "to film" implies capturing images to emulsion.
 
When I was referring to videotaping as opposed to film making I was more speaking in terms of people using the camera more like a video camera rather than a film camera, not that it actually involved actual film and emulsion.
ie run and gun rather than on a set with a dolly and lights and a follow focus operator.
or shooting people doing skateboarding tricks or other non film making art stuff to put on youtube rather than shooting indie films.

I know its a gray area since Video cameras are better and better quality and peoples expectations of what a exactly film making is.

OIS is feature that originated in ultra high end ENG video cameras and trickled down to consumer video cameras. It is used more by consumer type camera operators who shoot hand held.
Traditional 16mm/35mm film cameras don't really have any OIS features since you couldn't handhold a Panaflex.

Ya the HVX is still videotaping whether you are shooting your sons baseball game or making an indie feature, and the HVX is a consumer/prosumer camcorder hence the inclusion of camcorder features.

Yes I meant the rocker I knew it wasn't toggle but I didn't feel like digging up my hvx manual for the correct terminology. Rocker sounds better!
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Actually (unless it has changed in recent years) electronic image stabilization is found in consumer grade camcorders quite commonly, and will have an impact on overall image quality. OIS (Optical image stabilization) would be considered the 'professional' type of image stabilization as it is mechanical as Venezuelan pointed it, and doesn't degrade the image, and is typically only found in prosumer level and beyond cameras.

I get your point though. But, there are plenty of handheld style shots in films as well, and the HVX isn't *only* for filmmakers so the OIS is a handy tool when used appropriately.

Jason
 
Jason, I may edited my post after you replied because I was a little unclear (what else is new)
 
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