I'm still unhappy with all the 7Q mounting solutions out there

Hi Josh,

The part where the monitor is mounted I just made it. It's very easy to make. I got the thin aluminum bar from Home Depot and just drilled some holes in it.

I actually had 2 copies and I gave my friend and fellow 7Q shooter one and he uses it religiously as says it's a lot better than all the other 7Q mounting solutions he's tried. It's simple, and most importantly it's very solid so the unit does not move. It does tilt upwards really easily since it goes with the threading. Lucky coincidence as that's very useful.
 
Josh, thanks for the post. You should really check out Gene's rig. I tried it and it's great. Also look further up what Mitch suggested. Very good stuff. I just ordered it and will end up with something like Gene's rig. Just different parts.
 
The part where the monitor is mounted I just made it. It's very easy to make. I got the thin aluminum bar from Home Depot and just drilled some holes in it.
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And I spend $95 for this at Wooden Camera. Lol. Looks better though. More holes as well :)
 
Thanks. The other solutions are a bit pricey--genes rig is nice and looks cheap (where did you get the piece the rod attaches to?)

i would either go that route or a noga arm or similar.
 
Hi Josh,

Here's a list of the stuff I used. Good luck.

http://www.builtbyugene.com/blog/blog1_rigs.html

Personally, I think Noga arms are kind of painful for the 7Q for a handheld / shoulder rig type setup. It just moves around too much. Something locked off, secure and light is the way to go IMO. Keep it simple.

BTW, you don't need the Rod Plug anymore as Jag35 just builds that in now.
 
Mitch Gross said:
It depends how adjustable the position of the Odyssey needs to be, particularly the height.

The simplest stable rig would be a bar going straight forward off the top handle, much as Westside AV does. The top hot shoe would have to be removed from the handle, but Sony provides mounting holes for it on the back of the handle. Then a clamp to switch the direction laterally off to the left. Into the clamp would go a rod with a 1/4"/20 end that would screw directly into the side of the Odyssey7Q. This can all be accomplished relatively inexpensively with some parts from Wooden Camera and/or Zacuto, and be done for less than $400. For adjustability in height, the rod would need to attach to a secondary bar that would then attach to the side of the Odyssey7Q, which means more bits and cost involved. WC has essentially this rig as their EVF mount system, complete with a clutch mechanism.

Bar on Top Handle: WC Easy Stick $79
Right Angle adapter: WC Easy Right $25
Clamp for rod: WC 15mm tube clamp $95
15mm rod w/ internal threading: Zacuto 4.5" 15mm rod female/female $30
14"x20 insert for rod: Zacuto "Z-ARM-ADPT" $19

That's a total of $248 for a rock solid mounting solution. The Odyssey7Q can be positioned fore/aft on the camera via the Easy Stick mounting, left/right on the camera by moving the 15mm rod in the tube clamp and rotated top/bottom by turning the 15mm rod in the tube clamp. It is rigid so will always be level with the camera. This configuration does not give a vertical up/down to the camera, but a few more parts could do that as well. Knock yourself out.

In my past life at AbelCine I used to contraption out client kits and rental packages all the time. It's like an erector set.
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I realized that one probably doesn't need the WC Easy Right as the WC Easy Stick and the WC 15mm Tube Clamp can likely mount directly to one another. But for $25 it can be a useful part going into the future. The Easy Stick has a LOT of mounting points and this just expands it for additional use. Maybe good for a light or wireless mike mount.
 
I know it's not a cheap solution, but the Solid Camera version is doing wonders for my FS700/7Q setup both as ENG style and on a tripod. IMG_1494.jpgIMG_1490.jpgIMG_1491.jpgIMG_1492.jpgIMG_0211.jpgIMG_0237.jpg
 
Thanks. Thing about the noga arm is, i acknowledge the issues you mentioned, yet i have a friend who mounts a dp6 on a 5d with one of those arms while moving around with the cam (moving as in moving the cam while on a tripod from location to another, dont know about handheld). He swears by it, says it works fine and he has no problems. I realize dp6 is quite a bit smaller than odyssey, but they should weigh the same or close to it, no? Odyssey maybe even a bit lighter (even with batts on back)?
 
berlinfool said:
I have been looking for a good solution for my shoulder rig. But all the 7Q mounting options are either crap or $1000.
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Wellllll...... do you make money shooting or is it a hobby?

If you are a professional, you charge for your time and equipment. Some people charge only for time and some for a combination of people time and equipment time. It's all the same in the end - professional shooters sell time for money. Network shooters tend to bundle services for each shoot day - shooter, sound guy, gear, etc. Commercial shooters may break it down into individual pieces to make it easier to negotiate a job.

With that said, in a pro environment, time is money. The source of the money only cares about getting the most bang for the buck. I don't specifically plan to design the "expensive solution", but rather the fastest and easiest solution that offers the most flexibility and least amount of distractions so you can focus on your job, not the erector set camera. You get more shots in a day, there is less frustration, you make it look easy as you breeze through the day. Even if you are not directly billing for each bracket and clamp you buy, your client can tell if you are hacking it together or you are making-do with the cheapest thing you could find.

With all that said, our Ultimate Odyssey System starts at $195 and you build from there. A simple a rigid mounting solution can be had for a little over $300. A $1,000 kit gets you battery plates, hand-grips with baby pin mounting, neck strap, wireless mounts, or maybe our IP Support system if you don't need hand grips. It's a modular kit that you can configure from $300 on up depending on what your needs are. In use, the Ultimate Odyssey System can be re-configured from camera, to hand held, to desk top, to baby stand in seconds. It's fast, and time is money.
 
rx8pilot said:
Wellllll...... do you make money shooting or is it a hobby?

If you are a professional, you charge for your time and equipment. Some people charge only for time and some for a combination of people time and equipment time. It's all the same in the end - professional shooters sell time for money. Network shooters tend to bundle services for each shoot day - shooter, sound guy, gear, etc. Commercial shooters may break it down into individual pieces to make it easier to negotiate a job.

With that said, in a pro environment, time is money. The source of the money only cares about getting the most bang for the buck. I don't specifically plan to design the "expensive solution", but rather the fastest and easiest solution that offers the most flexibility and least amount of distractions so you can focus on your job, not the erector set camera. You get more shots in a day, there is less frustration, you make it look easy as you breeze through the day. Even if you are not directly billing for each bracket and clamp you buy, your client can tell if you are hacking it together or you are making-do with the cheapest thing you could find.

With all that said, our Ultimate Odyssey System starts at $195 and you build from there. A simple a rigid mounting solution can be had for a little over $300. A $1,000 kit gets you battery plates, hand-grips with baby pin mounting, neck strap, wireless mounts, or maybe our IP Support system if you don't need hand grips. It's a modular kit that you can configure from $300 on up depending on what your needs are. In use, the Ultimate Odyssey System can be re-configured from camera, to hand held, to desk top, to baby stand in seconds. It's fast, and time is money.
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Carlos, you've got my vote....;)
 
Gene, do you know if there is a solution similar to your el cheapo one that doesnt rely on being able to screw in to the top if the cam handle? im thinking of how id like to be able to use your mount with any cam...some way to mount to a hot shoe with that rig? and even mount another hot shoe on top of it? just wondering.
 
Wooden Camera released a new mount at IBC called a Recorder Slide. It attaches to the back of the Odyssey7Q, has an arm that comes down to a bar that attaches to 15mm rods. What's so clever is that the arm can slide up and down the back of the Odyssey and articulate in any direction, plus the connection to the rod mount is reversible, so it can be used in a "Z" configuration. That means you can put the rod mount on your front rods and position the Odyssey7Q next to the lens like a viewfinder. It's quite clever and handy, but I must admit I have not yet tried to configure it on a camera.
 
Josh Bass said:
Gene, do you know if there is a solution similar to your el cheapo one that doesnt rely on being able to screw in to the top if the cam handle? im thinking of how id like to be able to use your mount with any cam...some way to mount to a hot shoe with that rig? and even mount another hot shoe on top of it? just wondering.
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I would avoid a hot shoe, that's really not secure enough. Maybe just find the hole patterns in several different cameras and drill different hole patterns to fit. I think that's what I would do.

You can drill a hole and mount this hot shoe on top, that's what I did anyways.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/743061-REG/Vello_CS_Universal_Accessory_Shoe_Mount.html

Good luck.
 
stefanhuberfilms said:
i'm currently considering these three parts for my FS7QQ setup:

this rail piece onto the side of the odyssey:
http://www.coollcd.com/smallrig-quick-release-safety-rail-4cm-1409_p1409.html

this rail piece onto the side of the camera handle:
http://www.coollcd.com/smallrig-quick-release-safety-rail-7cm-1195_p1195.html

this bracket inbetween:
http://www.coollcd.com/smallrig-evf-mount-1479-nato-clamp-vv_p1479.html
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Yeah that looks very good - what I like is the adjustable tension, so you can tilt the O7Q too.
 
That's great except there are no mounting points on the side of the handle. Also it seems rather short, which means that the Odyssey won't be very far forward.
 
...unless you have a replacement handle like Movcam etc.

I'm waiting for replacement handles to be announced for the FS7 too so I could mount on either.

Mitch - you posted before I believe about the rail system that Sony had on the FS7 - I can't remember - was it a vocas system or Sony?
 
thanks. problem is though, when using a cam like a dslr or ex1 there are no holes to screw into on camera, so now we're talking about buying rails or a cage JUST to be able to attach a monitor (since i dont work with tricked out rigs).
 
Thanks for more ideas guys! I have been studying products for days (going cross-eyed!) for an elegant and budget friendly mounting solution for the 7Q. I almost went the same route as you Stefan based on those rail mounts from coollcd, but don't think that arm will be long enough. I was even considering re-creating the Movcam rosette arms setup with coollcd parts too, but it ended up being too many separate parts to achieve something similar. Argh, the mounting points on the 7Q are so few and so restricted by that massive CD battery plate!

I love Paul's Movcam mounting solution, but honestly that whole Movcam setup is pretty expensive and half the parts are barely available anywhere.

I use a camtree hunt fs700 rig much like Paul, but it's on my shoulder as much as its on the tripod, so having a fast switching solution to be out in front of my eyes like a (giant) EVF is a must. It also needs to be quickly moved back to center mass for tripod, dolly and steadicam shots.
As an experiment, I've re-created the Zacuto Zamerican arm out of coollcd parts for about $85 so I'll see how that goes. They have a new arm that has mini rosettes in the ball joint which in theory sounds more secure and "lockable". Time will tell though! My other two arms from coollcd bought 2 years ago are still going strong!
I was most attracted to the quick release nature of this setup and freedom of the articulation. It can re-locate and lock in literally anywhere on the rig.

Here's a breakdown:

Coollcd.com_monitor_mount.jpg

Parts:
$39.80 2 x Short 15mm Rod with 1/4 inch screw hole
$29.00 1 x Smallrig Articulating Rosette Arm (10")
$16.90 1 x EVF Rodmount

Can add this part to mount on a 15mm rod as well (I did for maximum mounting options)
$7.90 1 x Single rod clamp

In retrospect, you could even screw these little 15mm micro rods anywhere in a camtree/movcam rig for even more mount-wherever-the-hell-you-like flexibility - http://www.coollcd.com/15-inch-15mm-micro-rod-915_p915.html
 
THAT looks like something i could get down with. you say that little arm by itself is pretty steady? or am i misunderstanding?
 
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