If I were to...

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Mr. Prexy

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shoot a doc for let's say, The History Channel, and it was going to be aired...would the HVX be the way to go? (shooting in SD) and will it match up in quality compared to what they shoot on now (digibeta) ?

Or should I just purchase the JVC ProHD for that type of work?

Thanks.
 
You will have to wait for the HVX to come out first! Practice calming yourself for the hard 5-6 mo of waiting :)
 
and will it match up in quality compared to what they shoot on now (digibeta) ?
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If there were such a thing as a 1/3", $6,000 DigiBeta camera, then yes, I'd say an HVX would match up very well to it. But there isn't, DigiBeta cameras cost about $50,000 (without lens; add another $10,000 to $25,000 for a decent lens). And they're all 2/3" chipsets. And there's just about no way that any $6,000 camera is going to deliver a standard-def picture that rivals DigiBeta.

The HVX will give you the best standard-def you can get in a 1/3" camera (because it records 4:2:2 DVCPRO50). And it will give you the best high-def possible under $40,000. But it won't match a VariCam in 720p mode, and it won't match a CineAlta in 1080/24p or 1080/60i. There's reasons that those cameras cost $100,000 to $130,000.

If what you're asking is, will the HVX be able to produce gorgeous, broadcastable footage, then the answer will almost definitely be YES. Will it be indistinguishable from cameras that cost 8 or 20 times as much? Probably not. How could it?

It should be the very best you can get, at the price target it's marketed at. But that remains to be seen, of course -- there won't be cameras on the market for another four or five months or so!
 
The History channel, along with MTV, and manny other TV channels routinely use PD-150s and DVXs in there produtions so don't sweat it.
 
Yes. It won't be as good as digibeta, but I think the difference will come to a point that, if you don't mix cameras in one single show, will be unnoticeable. That's because one show's footage is always different than the other, and the difference in quality will not be as significant as the difference in content (wich is already true today, come to think about it).
 
evinsky said:
The History channel, along with MTV, and manny other TV channels routinely use PD-150s and DVXs in there produtions so don't sweat it.
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Cool, I'll probably pick up a XL2/DVX then for what I plan to shoot.
 
reservoir said:
XL2? What's that?
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The XL2 was a rare breed of DV camera, believed to have been in existence in the peleoDV era with other dominant cameras known as the PD170 and DVX100.
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They consumed MiniDV and/or DVcam tapes in large amounts.
Here, one of our young archeologists discovers remnants of what we believe to be the media of choice for these ancient artifacts, the MiniDV cassette tape.
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Also take note of the “HDV SUCKS” inscription behind our young archeologist. We believe this was written by a young tribesman of the “DVXuser forum”. Little is known about this rouge group, but it is believed that they were once considered a dominant force among “online” video camera user groups.
 
It really didn't take up that much time, maybe half an hour. It was something I just had to do, I had to get it out of my system, I was recently denied a Jr. Photoshop Graphic Designer position, which I kind of needed, so instead of going out and getting drunk, I'm just sitting here in front of Photoshop trying to turn it into positive energy. The real problem is, they had no problem taking my ideas, they just didn't want me. The real reason is probably because my cute lil' ass would have been too much of a distraction in the office. Whatever.
 
Digigenic said:
instead of going out and getting drunk ... The real reason is probably because my cute lil' ass would have been too much of a distraction in the office.
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The irony is you sound drunk. Sorry to hear about your job. A well known (subjective of course) music video director (so big, in fact, I bet you've never seen any of the 60 videos he has directed... I've only seen two of them, personally) told me that if one in ten projects comes to fruition then you're doing well.

In my humble couple of years "in the biz" that has certainly been true for me. FWIW, a similiar circumstance happened to me about a year ago, only in a corporate videographer position. It was a transitional time and they were considering all options, including replacing me... which they did. In one years time, they've been through one full time guy, two part timers, and eventually a freelance guy and one of the Executives last week admitted to me that I was the best work they'd ever hired out and weren't pleased with the quality of anyone else's camera work, ability to complete tasks on time, and overall performance. Unfortunately, that person isn't in a position to re-hire me full time (different department; you know how it goes) but could perhaps bring me back on for special projects. Anyways, it feels good to know that, in spite of corporate rigamaroo, I really was better than the others. meh.

Things will work out for you, Jacob. They always do.
You've got so much going for you already. Good luck.

-b
 
Thanks Wells – very much appreciated
Screw those corporate video swine. But they’re paying for it now, and they should for years to come! And with their demise, you shall taste sweet success. In the fall, we revolt!
Alright everybody, there’s nothing to see here.
We return you to your regularly scheduled program…
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God, I wish the camera would magically make me a better filmmaker. Oh well, I guess I'll have to realize that it's only a tool and no matter which camera (Dvx/xl2/hvx) I will have to rely on my talent to tell a story.

*Shucks*
 
there was a show last week broadcasted by Radio-Canada.
They mixed Digibeta (or BetacamSP, it looked like their usual image texture anyway) and DVX footage in the same show.
The Digibeta (or BetacamSP) was 60i an the DVX was 24p (with 3:2 pulldown).

I said to my friends, "these shots look better, they look like film" before i knew it was from a DVX.

yes, it was a DVX, saw it very clearly, and it handled the highlights beautifully , outdoors, sunny...It looked sharp too !
 
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