IBC 2016 Sigma Cinema Lenses

JackCarter

JackCarter

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Exactly what I've been waiting for.

http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/09/07/sigma-get-into-the-cine-lens-game-with-new-super-fast-zooms-and-primes-promising-a-fundamental-change-in-digital-film-production/

http://www.sigma-global.com/en/cine-lenses/

https://www.sigmaphoto.com/cinema-lenses

http://www.fdtimes.com/2016/09/07/sigma/

http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/09/09/ibc-2016-hands-on-with-the-new-sigma-cine-lenses/




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They look super nice, on all fronts: FF T/1.5 primes, S35 T/2 zooms, and the cine version of their weird 24-35 prime-that-zooms-just-a-bit.
No word on pricing yet.

Since they are available in EF and E mounts, with PL coming soon, it's a long-focal-flange-distance design (i.e. not specifically for mirrorless). Basically it looks like a cine version of their best lenses (and those are very good, so, yay!!).
 
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Yes! Finally these lenses are available in E Mount! And in cine versions to boot! I hope price is not sooo much higher than the normal versions, and they go the Samyang way of having the cine versions just a bit more expensive than the foto versions. Here's to hope!
 
A 160 degree focus throw may not be for everyone. I have the GL Optics 18-35 which has a 180 degree throw and it works fine for me. I'll have to sell this lens now.

Can someone please design a EF-FZ Speed Booster so we can use these Sigma primes on the F cameras for a FF look.
 
So the optics AND coatings are the same, I gather, while often cine lenses have at least improved coatings vs their still lens counterparts. So how are these Sigma cine lenses any better than the GL Optics modded Sigma Art lenses which are already available?

And the GL Optics also gives the option of a 300 degree focus rotation.
 
Eric Coughlin said:
So the optics AND coatings are the same, I gather, while often cine lenses have at least improved coatings vs their still lens counterparts. So how are these Sigma cine lenses any better than the GL Optics modded Sigma Art lenses which are already available?

And the GL Optics also gives the option of a 300 degree focus rotation.
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Because its a "cine" lens!
 
Eric Coughlin said:
So the optics AND coatings are the same, I gather, while often cine lenses have at least improved coatings vs their still lens counterparts. So how are these Sigma cine lenses any better than the GL Optics modded Sigma Art lenses which are already available?

And the GL Optics also gives the option of a 300 degree focus rotation.
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Sigma say all the new lenses share a common colour reproduction and are optimised for pleasant bokeh. All the lenses are dust and splash proof so I don't think these are exactly the same as the still lens versions. I believe the Sigma version will weigh less than the GL optics version and I suspect it will also cost less but this is all really just speculation. We won't know the real difference until the Sigma PL version is available. Could the Sigma version be parfocal because the GL version is not.

I love my GL Optics lens but it is just a rehousing of a still lens. I don't have the 300 degree focus rotation version but I'd rather own a lens manufactured by Sigma rather than just a rehousing by a third party. Have you seen the rehousing by P+S Technik? It's great but it's expensive.

https://www.pstechnik.de/ps-zoom18-35/a-2459/#description
 
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Eric Coughlin said:
So the optics AND coatings are the same, I gather, while often cine lenses have at least improved coatings vs their still lens counterparts. So how are these Sigma cine lenses any better than the GL Optics modded Sigma Art lenses which are already available? ...
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Sigma says the mechanical components will be different and vastly improved. I have no idea what that means and no one will know until they take these lenses apart. My guess - smoother motors, higher grade metals, closer tolerances.

PS. At, let's say, three times the current retail price of their stills lineup, these would be a steal, if they perform as anticipated.
 
DLD said:
Sigma says the mechanical components will be different and vastly improved. I have no idea what that means and no one will know until they take these lenses apart. My guess - smoother motors, higher grade metals, closer tolerances.

PS. At, let's say, three times the current retail price of their stills lineup, these would be a steal, if they perform as anticipated.
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And hopefully less breathing
 
So here's a question: Are these manual focus only?

If they are, hopefully that will help keep the prices lower due to less components and simpler manufacturing.

If they aren't, that would make them pretty unique, right? Cine lenses that have auto-focus?
 
DLD said:
Sigma says the mechanical components will be different and vastly improved. I have no idea what that means and no one will know until they take these lenses apart. My guess - smoother motors, higher grade metals, closer tolerances.
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With luck these will be as well made as the CP.2's.

DLD said:
PS. At, let's say, three times the current retail price of their stills lineup, these would be a steal, if they perform as anticipated.
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That's what I'm hoping for. How long do you think it will be before we know the pricing?
 
hoju said:
If they aren't, that would make them pretty unique, right? Cine lenses that have auto-focus?
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These are cinema lenses so I doubt they will have any sort of auto-focus. I believe they will send certain cameras metadata showing the focal length and T-stop used.
 
hoju said:
So here's a question: Are these manual focus only? ...
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That's a good and currently unanswered (unanswerable?) question. The EF mount glass may be technically AF capable but will have to fight the resistance from Canon to allow a third party lens to work with its ecosystem. Sony and Sigma have been a lot cozier and may allow AF on their e-mounts. The problem there is that the current Sony lineup in the cine range is not really AF capable (unlike 5D MKIV, 1D XII, C300 MKII and C700). PL does not have AF and won't have it unless there's an industry wide call for the open source AF mount.

On the other hand, Sigma is clearly looking beyond of what is currently available. Sony would be wise to welcome that perspective. Canon is almost guaranteed not to.

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... That's what I'm hoping for. How long do you think it will be before we know the pricing?
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I figure around the New Year. Sigma seems very stable with their prices. It's glass after all, not electronics.

BTW, if one split the difference between their stills primes and something like Zeiss CP.2, he might arrive at a rough range. Manufacturers have obviously figured out what we have talked about here that, given the rapidly falling prices of the high end pro models - or, at least, rapidly falling prices of high quality image acquisition - the glass has to reflect that fall too. A $200,000 camera can handle $100,000 worth of lenses. A $10,000 camera needs something closer to its own price point.
 
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To be clear, Sigma have been making Canon-compatible auto-focus lenses for many years. I believe the photo version of the 18-35mm has auto-focus, which is why this question occurred to me :)
 
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