i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
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Taylor Moore
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This guy has an amazing book on building cranes and dollies and is a great guy.
www.dvcamerarigs.com
This guy has an amazing book on building cranes and dollies and is a great guy.
www.dvcamerarigs.com
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I second that...The book he put together is very good so long you have access to the raw materials/tools - Dan (the author) is a great guy and will answer any questions you have regarding practically anything.
I recommend you consider the PDF version, it has color photos.
Cheers.
I second that...The book he put together is very good so long you have access to the raw materials/tools - Dan (the author) is a great guy and will answer any questions you have regarding practically anything.
I recommend you consider the PDF version, it has color photos.
Cheers.
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Re: i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
Thanks for all of the kind words you guys!
About the PDF version of Killer Camera Rigs that you can build:
One scumbag ruined it for everybody. I found pirated versions floating around, so the PDF version is no longer available. While it's nice to have color photos, there was a lot of working with the printer to get the black and white photos in the book looking really nice. And given that there are over 1300 step-by-step photos, printing the PDF goes through ink like water. In the end, buying the acutal book is a much cheaper way to go.
Thanks again for the compliments you guys. The reason I spend time trying to help those who might have problems or questions about the rigs, is that I REALLY want the people that buy the book to USE it. I'd consider it a failure on my part if you bought the book and just let it sit on the shelf. One more thing, Remy--there are 3 cranes in the book, so I'm sure you'll find one to fit your needs. I'd recommend you start with the dolly and the "Killer's Kiss Crane". They are made for each other, and super easy to build.
Dan Selakovich
www.DVcameraRigs.com
Thanks for all of the kind words you guys!
About the PDF version of Killer Camera Rigs that you can build:
One scumbag ruined it for everybody. I found pirated versions floating around, so the PDF version is no longer available. While it's nice to have color photos, there was a lot of working with the printer to get the black and white photos in the book looking really nice. And given that there are over 1300 step-by-step photos, printing the PDF goes through ink like water. In the end, buying the acutal book is a much cheaper way to go.
Thanks again for the compliments you guys. The reason I spend time trying to help those who might have problems or questions about the rigs, is that I REALLY want the people that buy the book to USE it. I'd consider it a failure on my part if you bought the book and just let it sit on the shelf. One more thing, Remy--there are 3 cranes in the book, so I'm sure you'll find one to fit your needs. I'd recommend you start with the dolly and the "Killer's Kiss Crane". They are made for each other, and super easy to build.
Dan Selakovich
www.DVcameraRigs.com
jaredlebaron
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Re: i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
Another option if you want to make your own stuff is
www.college-film.com/howto.htm look under "Tutorials"...some of the links are dead but some give you an idea of how to make stuff...I have not seen Dan’s book but assume it should be better then this page considering all the good references above. Luckly my father in law is a master carpenter and is helping me make some cool stuff out of wood…kind regards, Jared.
Another option if you want to make your own stuff is
www.college-film.com/howto.htm look under "Tutorials"...some of the links are dead but some give you an idea of how to make stuff...I have not seen Dan’s book but assume it should be better then this page considering all the good references above. Luckly my father in law is a master carpenter and is helping me make some cool stuff out of wood…kind regards, Jared.
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Zoomforce
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Re: i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
nice to see another Jared lurking around here. ;D
nice to see another Jared lurking around here. ;D
Taylor Moore
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Re: i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
I have Dans book in Black and White, and it is fine. Lots of detail and humor.
I have Dans book in Black and White, and it is fine. Lots of detail and humor.
Re: i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
lol..i was going to make asubway comment after he said that, but i wasnt sure if jared(zoom) has "subway" up there or not..probably has somthing similar cept its called "mad cow eateroos" ... lol
sorry canada people..i couldnt resist !!
lol..i was going to make asubway comment after he said that, but i wasnt sure if jared(zoom) has "subway" up there or not..probably has somthing similar cept its called "mad cow eateroos" ... lol
sorry canada people..i couldnt resist !!
Taylor Moore
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Re: i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
Well us Canadian west coaster eat tofu and fish in our Birkenstocks. :
Well us Canadian west coaster eat tofu and fish in our Birkenstocks. :
Barry_Green
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Re: i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
When shopping for a personal jib arm, you have to know what your likely intended use is. I've had two of my own, plus access to wonders like the Jimmy Jib.
The GlideCam CamCrane 100, for example, can create wonderful boom pans and high shots, and is nice and stable, and inexpensive. And at a max length of 3'3" for each piece, it can break down to a very compact size that can fit in any trunk. And it's pretty inexpensive. And it features customizable length -- you can build it as small as 3' long, or as large as 8' long. On the downside, there's no provision for controlling the camera's tilt & pan at the end of the jib head, which is fairly limiting. My biggest problem with it was the lengthy assembly time -- once you get on set, it's going to be a good 15-30 minutes of laying out parts and assembling it. But if you use it infrequently, don't have a big truck, and don't have big bucks, it's a great little product and GlideCam service/support is OUTSTANDING.
I moved to the EZ/FX jib arm primarily because of the assembly time. The EZ/FX comes basically fully assembled. You arrive on set, mount it to the tripod, unfold the extension, and you're done. In addition, it seems more stable and sturdy than the GlideCam (which it should be, at about 2.5x the price). I also got the EZ/FX Handle, which provides for full control of the camera on the tripod head. It's the only "affordable" jib arm I know of that allows full pan, tilt, jib pan, and jib tilt, all independently. Very happy with it. But the total setup is around $1500. EZ/FX service has also proven to be absolutely outstanding.
The Jimmy Jib is in another world altogether. Here you're talking about 12' of true professional equipment, with remote pan, tilt, and focus motors. And $12,000. Huge, heavy, takes forever to build, and absolutely professional all the way.
For me the choice was easy (literally! "EZ"!) EZ/FX (www.ezfx.com). But it's not cheap. And they NEVER go on sale, and nobody sells 'em any less expensively (that I ever found). They come up on ebay maybe once a year -- nobody ever sells one of these.
When shopping for a personal jib arm, you have to know what your likely intended use is. I've had two of my own, plus access to wonders like the Jimmy Jib.
The GlideCam CamCrane 100, for example, can create wonderful boom pans and high shots, and is nice and stable, and inexpensive. And at a max length of 3'3" for each piece, it can break down to a very compact size that can fit in any trunk. And it's pretty inexpensive. And it features customizable length -- you can build it as small as 3' long, or as large as 8' long. On the downside, there's no provision for controlling the camera's tilt & pan at the end of the jib head, which is fairly limiting. My biggest problem with it was the lengthy assembly time -- once you get on set, it's going to be a good 15-30 minutes of laying out parts and assembling it. But if you use it infrequently, don't have a big truck, and don't have big bucks, it's a great little product and GlideCam service/support is OUTSTANDING.
I moved to the EZ/FX jib arm primarily because of the assembly time. The EZ/FX comes basically fully assembled. You arrive on set, mount it to the tripod, unfold the extension, and you're done. In addition, it seems more stable and sturdy than the GlideCam (which it should be, at about 2.5x the price). I also got the EZ/FX Handle, which provides for full control of the camera on the tripod head. It's the only "affordable" jib arm I know of that allows full pan, tilt, jib pan, and jib tilt, all independently. Very happy with it. But the total setup is around $1500. EZ/FX service has also proven to be absolutely outstanding.
The Jimmy Jib is in another world altogether. Here you're talking about 12' of true professional equipment, with remote pan, tilt, and focus motors. And $12,000. Huge, heavy, takes forever to build, and absolutely professional all the way.
For me the choice was easy (literally! "EZ"!) EZ/FX (www.ezfx.com). But it's not cheap. And they NEVER go on sale, and nobody sells 'em any less expensively (that I ever found). They come up on ebay maybe once a year -- nobody ever sells one of these.
Terry_Lasater
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Re: i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
I, too, have the EZ/FX jib. I also have the Varizoom MC-100 remote controlled pan/tilt head on the end of it.
You can also buy a 4' or 6' extension kit for this jib. I have the 6' extension kit.
As Barry says, it is a nice design and quick to set up... although it takes a bit longer when using the remote controlled head.
The EZ/FX jib arm (alone) is approx $1,150... the heavy duty tripod they sell is about $600... the remote control head was $3,200... the extension kit was another $700... the monitor support was another $100... the quick release plate for camera was another $75... counterweight caddy $25... EZ cart for counterweights $135... EZ/FX pan/tilt handle $280... Heavy Duty Cine Tripod Dolly $275...
Well, when it was all said and done I spent more than $6,000 on the setup.
Almost enough to get me into an entry-level Jimmy-Jib (around $8,500).
So, remy, you can get into an EZ/FX jib for about $1,150 (if you already have a support {tripod} for it. You could add all the accessories you want later.
I, too, have the EZ/FX jib. I also have the Varizoom MC-100 remote controlled pan/tilt head on the end of it.
You can also buy a 4' or 6' extension kit for this jib. I have the 6' extension kit.
As Barry says, it is a nice design and quick to set up... although it takes a bit longer when using the remote controlled head.
The EZ/FX jib arm (alone) is approx $1,150... the heavy duty tripod they sell is about $600... the remote control head was $3,200... the extension kit was another $700... the monitor support was another $100... the quick release plate for camera was another $75... counterweight caddy $25... EZ cart for counterweights $135... EZ/FX pan/tilt handle $280... Heavy Duty Cine Tripod Dolly $275...
Well, when it was all said and done I spent more than $6,000 on the setup.
Almost enough to get me into an entry-level Jimmy-Jib (around $8,500).
So, remy, you can get into an EZ/FX jib for about $1,150 (if you already have a support {tripod} for it. You could add all the accessories you want later.
DVX100Shooter
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Re: i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
check out EBAY for Camera Cranes...I saw several on there the same day I was looking for Camera Dollies. There is also a website called www.homebuiltstabilizers.com that you can get some ideas on how to make your own crane (jib).
check out EBAY for Camera Cranes...I saw several on there the same day I was looking for Camera Dollies. There is also a website called www.homebuiltstabilizers.com that you can get some ideas on how to make your own crane (jib).
Terry_Lasater
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Re: i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
www.homebuiltstabilizers.com wants your money.
Here are some links for FREE plans to build a DIY jib...
http://home.pacifier.com/~tmnathe/boom.html
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/jib/jib.html
http://www.freyerlighting.com/WebSitePages/GripTrix/FreyerSpeedJib.html
www.homebuiltstabilizers.com wants your money.
Here are some links for FREE plans to build a DIY jib...
http://home.pacifier.com/~tmnathe/boom.html
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/jib/jib.html
http://www.freyerlighting.com/WebSitePages/GripTrix/FreyerSpeedJib.html
ullanta
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If you don't want to build it yourself, I'll second the CobraCrane, specifically the CobraCrane BackPacker, which is easy to transport, as well. $350 or so gets you the 6' Jib, and the 3' extension. I mount mine on a Bogen 3011 + 3063 tripod, and it works fairly well for <$600 total investment; but I'd recommend a sturdier tripod.
However... if you're thinking of a Jib... make sure you keep in mind that there's no convenient way so far to remote-focus the DVX, and no (or slow on A) autofocus in 24P...
If you don't want to build it yourself, I'll second the CobraCrane, specifically the CobraCrane BackPacker, which is easy to transport, as well. $350 or so gets you the 6' Jib, and the 3' extension. I mount mine on a Bogen 3011 + 3063 tripod, and it works fairly well for <$600 total investment; but I'd recommend a sturdier tripod.
However... if you're thinking of a Jib... make sure you keep in mind that there's no convenient way so far to remote-focus the DVX, and no (or slow on A) autofocus in 24P...
charles
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Terry, what do you mean by your statement :" www.homebuiltstabilizers.com wants your money. "
Is that suppose to be a joke? ???
Boy! I hope not. I know this post is old but I was just going through all old post and came across this one with your statement. Please prove me wrong.
Terry, what do you mean by your statement :" www.homebuiltstabilizers.com wants your money. "
Is that suppose to be a joke? ???
Boy! I hope not. I know this post is old but I was just going through all old post and came across this one with your statement. Please prove me wrong.
Re: i want to know the best and the cheap jib.
I have been using the skycrane (skycrane.com) for a while and am really impressed with it. Good price and Bob Jones, the owner is really helpful and honest. He builds them out of his garage, but from seeing the cobra crane, I think his is a much better rig. Easy to use and never had any problems.
Also, I understand he has just created a remote controlled powered head for the unit to allow it to pan 360 degrees. Have not used it myself, but sounds promising.
I have been using the skycrane (skycrane.com) for a while and am really impressed with it. Good price and Bob Jones, the owner is really helpful and honest. He builds them out of his garage, but from seeing the cobra crane, I think his is a much better rig. Easy to use and never had any problems.
Also, I understand he has just created a remote controlled powered head for the unit to allow it to pan 360 degrees. Have not used it myself, but sounds promising.