MIRRORLESS: I need help from any Panasonic Lumix G9II Owners Out There

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Hugh DiMauro

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I want to access high frame rates (over 60 fps using an SSD) on my G9II and I know it can be done up to 300 FPS because I already did it once, plus, this video shows how to do it:


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I went back to my camera and tried to access 300 FPS again and now it won't allow me to go over 60 FPS on the S&Q dial! What happened between the first time it worked and now? Has anyone else had this issue and how can I fix this? I'd be grateful for assistance!
 
I kept it at MOV, 1080p, 10 bit 420, 23.97! It let me do 300 FPS once fifteen minutes prior and when I went back to try it again it tops me off at 60 FPS! Tried it with a powerfuk battery AND with an AC coupler! WTF?
 
Could be your card isn't supported or isn't fast enough, not enough space. Try 8 bit color too. Factory reset, latest firmware, that's all I can think of. If it's grayed out in the menu usually means you're in a mode that or have setting that doesn't support that type of recording.
 
Not grayed out. Latest firmware on camera and SSD through Samsung Magician. Best and fastest USB-C cable, too. Remember, it worked ONE TIME! Then I went back (after lunch) and now it won't go over 60 FPS. Nothing is greyed out in the menu. There are just no more FPS options after the 60 where, the first time I tried it, it gave me the choice to go all the way to 300 FPS.
 
Double and triple-check everything; in-camera framerates, project framerates, codecs/formats, settings like the synchro scan in the menu, cable connections, drive status, maybe factory-reset one of the cameras...it can't be much, it either works or it doesn't (and maybe you saw something else the first time).

In the video, he only mentions a 24p or 30p timeline which might mean 300fps over 60p is not available (which is common too and it's only 300/24 or 300/30).
 
Since most computers respond to power removal and reboot have you tried removing battery, start with dial at M, put in charged battery, check you can set parameters, then move dial to S&Q and set as in that video. I have GH5S and GH6 they work similar to G9 just different values.
 
I'm not a fan of having a SSD hanging off the camera. Contact the Panasonic to find the recommended drive. Otherwise get a fast card.
 
NorBro said:
Double and triple-check everything; in-camera framerates, project framerates, codecs/formats, settings like the synchro scan in the menu, cable connections, drive status, maybe factory-reset one of the cameras...it can't be much, it either works or it doesn't (and maybe you saw something else the first time).

In the video, he only mentions a 24p or 30p timeline which might mean 300fps over 60p is not available (which is common too and it's only 300/24 or 300/30).
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NorBro! Nice to hear from you again! I followed his Youtube video to the letter and I saw, with my own eyes, right in my own camera settings, the option for 300 FPS right there in the menu setting. Clear as day in my viewfinder. My camera is set to 23.97, MOV, 420 and/or 422 10 BIT LONG GOP and ALL-I. Tried it all.
 
NorBro said:
Thank you! Does it work with a SD card? (if it's available, IDK)
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Does not work with SD card nor SSD and my SSD's firmware is up to date, the cable is a high speed cable for 8K video and I tried this with my camera plugged in to AC current as well as DC current with high capacity battery via dummy battery BLK22. Again, it worked once and never worked again. Also tried a factory reset.
 
Really strange, no idea. But one thing with Panasonic cameras is they are notorious for too many different codecs/flavors to choose from, always disliked that about the cameras.

I would maybe flip through each one, one-by-one, see if anything changes.

If you saw 300fps before, something is off because it doesn't just stop working. One little setting might be off somewhere. Check shutter, too.
 
NorBro said:
Really strange, no idea. But one thing with Panasonic cameras is they are notorious for too many different codecs/flavors to choose from, always disliked that about the cameras.

I would maybe flip through each one, one-by-one, see if anything changes.

If you saw 300fps before, something is off because it doesn't just stop working. One little setting might be off somewhere. Check shutter, too.
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180 degree shutter. Always. Tried every codec. Funny thing, too, this is happening with BOTH of my G9 II cameras! What the hell?
 
I finally figured this out after trial and error. It all has to do with finicky batteries. I finally got it to work with a Watson NP-F, 10,050 mAh, fully charged battery and only when I save it to a V90 SDXC II card internally. If the battery goes down in power after using it for a few minutes (even though I am showing fill charge in viewfinder), it will defaiult back to a max of 60 FPS in S&Q mode. Sometimes I get a message saying "S&Q mode will not work in current settings" meaning saving all video to SDXC internal card, HOWEVER, when I go into S&G mode just to see what's what, it will allow 300 FPS anyway despite the viewfinder warning. So it seems to be a battery communication thing. Oh, and if I change batteries, it allows me to record in 300 FPS on an SSD even though another battery says I can't. It's like the camera decides when to let me choose where I record files based on some kind of internal Panasonic gremlin. Looks like I'll have to purchase a few expensive, high capacity, NP-F batteries just for when I want to shoot 300 FPS. Oh, and sometimes it will allow high frame rates in MOV, 10 bit, 422 ALL-I and sometimes I have to revert back to MOV, 10 bit, 420 Long GOP. This crazyness is irritating as hell but at least I nailed down the fact that power consumption seems to be the culprit. Oh well. I thank everybody for their assistance. I get when it worked yesterday (then stopped) it was because it liked one battery and disliked another, or, liked the SSD then decided to change its mind and instead like the SDXC card. I will admit, however, that's it's nice to know with the correct power solution I can record very high frame rates internally without having to mount an external SSD. I always stress over the fact something may catch the USB-C cable and damage the port.
 
HFRs draw a lot of power which is why that's still the Achilles heel for 99% of cameras (solid high-quality super slow motion), but really didn't expect that to be the reason, Ron called it.
 
Nice you figured it out. I vaguely remember some reviewer said you could use previous model batteries it wouldn't run as long and some features might not be available. I would use the OEM batteries for this camera if this is important to you. With every variable you add: ssd, 3rd party battery, etc you introduce issues. Anything for a job I'm careful adding or changing anything.
 
This has been interesting. I have a G9ii and did not know that it would do 300fps. I do 240fps with it all the time... I have a custom setting on the dial to get to it quickly. But I was unaware that the camera would do 300fps in the right circumstances. I do not have a V90 card, so that may be the issue.

I also have a GH6, and it will definitely do 300fps. It is apparently much less persnickety than the G9ii, because I can shoot 300fps on my usual V60 SD card. It's totally reliable, too. Now I'm curious to know about the GH7... is it fussy about being set to 300fps like the G9ii? Or is it just another setting like the GH6?
 
I have Gh6/G9II. On Gh6 I always use CFast for video. On G9II always fastest V cards. If you are not using external power always go with Pany batteries for serious stuff. I wish the G9II had Cfast slot, but I have shoe mount for external SSD. I just don't want to be 150 miles away, shooting extensively and have something go wrong.
 
JeffD7K said:
I have Gh6/G9II. On Gh6 I always use CFast for video.
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Funny how differently we use our gear. I have a GH6 and *never* use the CFast card. (I have a 128GB CFast card.) I used the CFast slot once to test it, and I have a CFast reader to get the file into my computer, but I do everything on SD cards or occasionally on an external USB-C drive. Do you know that you can record onto a thumb drive plugged into the USB-C slot? Here's a video I made about that:


FWIW, a G9ii will also record onto USB-C thumb drives, just like the GH6. I have a video about that, too.
 
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