I Love Tapeless

adamr316

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Some huge selling points that rarely go mentioned in marketing these tapeless cameras are the pains in the butt stuff we had to deal with using tape. They won't say it because they are still selling these machines to people but we can be real honest here.

With two memory card slots you don't have to worry about missing a frame of the action. When the card is about to fill up it simply starts recording to the other card. With tape, if you were fast, you'd lose at least 15-20 seconds of footage waiting for the tape to eject and then reloading it. This wasn't so much of a problem with full DV cameras but with MiniDV's 60 minute maximum (I refuse to record in LP mode) this was quite often a problem for event shooting.

Tape dropouts. The ugly stepchild of miniDV. Let's be honest MiniDV was a crappy recording medium. The image and sound quality was stellar but man if you got a little piece of dirt or some metal particle build up on the tape you dropped a frame. Ugh! It happened at least once during some part of production and if it were a once in a lifetime shot that needed to go into the final product...it was just a pain in the butt.

Anytime I shot MiniDV the first thing I'd do is capture to whole tape and save it to a hard drive and then burn those data files onto DVD. One of my professors who works for the Discovery Channel said that when they used minidv it was good for about 4-5 passes. So playback maybe once or twice all the way through and that was it for the tape's life without dropouts.

Let's not get started on HDV to minidv. a half second of footage lost due to dropout? No thanks.

With P2 or SxS...no more gunked up heads. You can reuse the cards over and over. They are initially expensive but you'd eventually pay that in tape stock and then some.

And since I was already always backing all of my footage up anyway transferring data from the card to a hard drive was such a piece of cake. My clips/takes are already "logged and captured"...big time saver as we all know.


I love it!!
 
Another oft overlooked benefit of XDCam format is the automatic creation of XML database metatag info by the camera. This is a boon to stock video clip producers, as the unique IDs can be used to catalog the clips in a back end server situation that reads XML with .NET code.
There are tremendous benefits beyond the great picture and sound. I am finding that logging and trimming your clips in XDCam Clip Browser is a good habit to get into, as it builds a tremendous wealth of information that you could use with a custom application to search and read metatags. Heck, even Clip Browser can probably do this. There is a wealth of information in the XML data!
 
I am using it for jobs that needs to be made in to 30 sec video clips for the internet. I shoot up load and edit it straight away while on the road, and it gets uploaded to the server by the end of the day. My clients are happy and I'm happy.

I hated the drop up that i was getting out from my XHA1, with this, touch wood, so far no drop out. I shoot as much as I want, review it and I even delete the unwanted clips on the spot.

The more I use it the better I get at managing the clips. Once you try it , you will wonder why didn't you embrace it sooner...
 
With P2 or SxS...no more gunked up heads. You can reuse the cards over and over. They are initially expensive but you'd eventually pay that in tape stock and then some.

My background is Photography and while I don't have my EX1 or 3 yet :( I did learn something from using CF Cards. I'm not sure it applies, but as time goes on it maybe something you need to think about.

With CF cards people thought you could use them forever, but it seemed as though it was more like 200 to 250 uses before they would start to loose data. Pictures started to disappear and then we had to use software to bring back most of the card to finally some cards just were unusable. It may be wise if you start seeing corruption to tell everyone about it :) but also measure the usage. On CF Cards we now switch them out every 18 months. With the video cards it maybe much less for Filmmakers but for Videographers in Weddings or Television, if they act like CFs they'll have to be swicthed out.

Lucky enough when we started our Photography Digital Workflow (2003) - CF Cards 2GB were $600 a piece (sound familiar?) and now 4GB CF Cards are less than $80! So 5 years from now it may not even matter.
 
About 8 years ago, when SmartMedia cards were all the rage, we had semi-frequent failures of entire SmartMedia cards, to the point where none of the data was recoverable, and the card itself would no longer format or mount, necessitating warranty replacement from SanDisk.

I estimate that the average EX1 owner will probably invest $60,000 in SxS cards over the life of the camera; I would surely hope that those cards not need replacing--ever. At nearly a grand a piece (16GB) and $1,695 each (32GB), these are not items you want to be replacing.
 
I estimate that the average EX1 owner will probably invest $60,000 in SxS cards over the life of the camera;
How do you calculate this number? I'm two and a half years into an HVX and I've only got a couple of 4GB's and an 8GB and never felt the need to spend more. Why do you think someone would have to buy 20 to 60 cards over the lifespan of a camera (and what do you estimate that lifespan to be, 3 years? 5 years? 8 years?)
 
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