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Long story short, I have a Canon 60D. I loved it when I got it in 2010 (my first DLSR and FHD camera), and have grown increasingly unsatisfied with it ever since. The lack of resolution, the terrible DR, the mushy compressed resulting footage - all of it. I can't afford L-series glass or Zeiss lenses to help compensate.
For years, I have heard about the quality of the GH series and just couldn't fathom that they were that much better despite all the Vimeo comparisons in the world. Well, now I get it. I've been helping shoot a web series pilot with my 60D and Canon 17-55 f/2.8 lens and the director decided to let me operate the main camera instead (stock GH2). The difference was astounding. Real detail (not sharpness), actual shadows, soft highlights, less jitter, hell even the onboard sound was better. All shot in the same location with the same lighting/support and the same actors. I know this is old news to you guys, but it just happened for me and now I want to move away from the dark side.
Here's my dilemma: I know very little about non-EF or EF-S lenses, and even less about the MFT mount. I am trying to decide if I should keep my lenses and adapt them, or if I should sell them and start fresh with glass. Here is what I have currently:
Canon EF-S 17-55 2.8 IS
Sigma 30 1.4 (old style)
Canon EF 85 1.8
Sigma 70-200 2.8 OS APO
From what I can tell, there is only one adapter that will let me use my EF-S lenses with IS and that is the $600 Metabones Speedbooster. I can't even find one that works with EF-S and has manual aperture control (if you know of one please tell me). I've read that I can take the plastic EF-S tip off and use EF adapters, but that seems sketchy. Can someone help me understand what my experience would be if I kept my lenses?
If I sell my lenses, I don't know where to start to look at replacing them. I never use AF for video, so I am ok with full manual lenses -- but which ones are worth looking at? I've read that some Olympus and Leica lens mount directly without adapters, but which ones? And do they mount in a way that would allow me to use their electronics or do they become manual? I've also heard there are some other lens brands that can mount directly, so I'd have similar questions there. Are there cheaper active mounts for other non-Canon lenses, like Nikon for example, that would allow me find a lens capable of IS? And what about MFT native glass -- there seems to be such a limited selection compared to the EF/EF-S native glass selection that I'm used to. I'd like to get at least one walkaround lens with AF for photos (that's what I use my 17-55 for quite a bit).
As far as FOV ranges are concerned, on my 60D I use the 17-55 the majority of the time, the 30 and 70-200 when needed for lowlight or tele/closeups, and the 85 hardly at all. I tend to like a 24ish-60ish range when you factor in the FF crop, and I'm a big fan of the handheld look so I tend to like the wider end of that range. I'd probably be fine with two fast primes (one wider, one less wide) and a walkaround zoom with AF for photos. I think I can manage without a tele, and that is my most expensive lens so I'm thinking I should probably sell it. But it's such a great lens it's just as easy to justify keeping it.
If you stayed with me this far, thank you. I know these threads can be cumbersome, but I've always appreciated the DVX forums for it's vast wealth of knowledgeable and helpful users. Almost done.
At this point, I'd be happy with a stock GH2 over my 60D -- but I also know I can get a GH3 for not much more. Is that really worth it? I've read some comparisons and see there are some definite improvements in the GH3 over the GH2, but I've also read some users happy to be sticking with their GH2. I've also considered a GH4. If I can swing it, it would definitely help me stick out around here as just another Canon DSLR shooter in the crowd (not to mention being more future-ready). Let's say it came down to a GH3 and a couple lenses or a GH4 and one lens -- which would you pick and why? If the latter, which one lens would you choose if you were in my position?
Anyway, I'll give you guys a break now. Thanks for reading. Also, if you have any good resources on transitioning from Canon to GH, or primers on the GH and MFT mount, I'd love to see them.
For years, I have heard about the quality of the GH series and just couldn't fathom that they were that much better despite all the Vimeo comparisons in the world. Well, now I get it. I've been helping shoot a web series pilot with my 60D and Canon 17-55 f/2.8 lens and the director decided to let me operate the main camera instead (stock GH2). The difference was astounding. Real detail (not sharpness), actual shadows, soft highlights, less jitter, hell even the onboard sound was better. All shot in the same location with the same lighting/support and the same actors. I know this is old news to you guys, but it just happened for me and now I want to move away from the dark side.
Here's my dilemma: I know very little about non-EF or EF-S lenses, and even less about the MFT mount. I am trying to decide if I should keep my lenses and adapt them, or if I should sell them and start fresh with glass. Here is what I have currently:
Canon EF-S 17-55 2.8 IS
Sigma 30 1.4 (old style)
Canon EF 85 1.8
Sigma 70-200 2.8 OS APO
From what I can tell, there is only one adapter that will let me use my EF-S lenses with IS and that is the $600 Metabones Speedbooster. I can't even find one that works with EF-S and has manual aperture control (if you know of one please tell me). I've read that I can take the plastic EF-S tip off and use EF adapters, but that seems sketchy. Can someone help me understand what my experience would be if I kept my lenses?
If I sell my lenses, I don't know where to start to look at replacing them. I never use AF for video, so I am ok with full manual lenses -- but which ones are worth looking at? I've read that some Olympus and Leica lens mount directly without adapters, but which ones? And do they mount in a way that would allow me to use their electronics or do they become manual? I've also heard there are some other lens brands that can mount directly, so I'd have similar questions there. Are there cheaper active mounts for other non-Canon lenses, like Nikon for example, that would allow me find a lens capable of IS? And what about MFT native glass -- there seems to be such a limited selection compared to the EF/EF-S native glass selection that I'm used to. I'd like to get at least one walkaround lens with AF for photos (that's what I use my 17-55 for quite a bit).
As far as FOV ranges are concerned, on my 60D I use the 17-55 the majority of the time, the 30 and 70-200 when needed for lowlight or tele/closeups, and the 85 hardly at all. I tend to like a 24ish-60ish range when you factor in the FF crop, and I'm a big fan of the handheld look so I tend to like the wider end of that range. I'd probably be fine with two fast primes (one wider, one less wide) and a walkaround zoom with AF for photos. I think I can manage without a tele, and that is my most expensive lens so I'm thinking I should probably sell it. But it's such a great lens it's just as easy to justify keeping it.
If you stayed with me this far, thank you. I know these threads can be cumbersome, but I've always appreciated the DVX forums for it's vast wealth of knowledgeable and helpful users. Almost done.
At this point, I'd be happy with a stock GH2 over my 60D -- but I also know I can get a GH3 for not much more. Is that really worth it? I've read some comparisons and see there are some definite improvements in the GH3 over the GH2, but I've also read some users happy to be sticking with their GH2. I've also considered a GH4. If I can swing it, it would definitely help me stick out around here as just another Canon DSLR shooter in the crowd (not to mention being more future-ready). Let's say it came down to a GH3 and a couple lenses or a GH4 and one lens -- which would you pick and why? If the latter, which one lens would you choose if you were in my position?
Anyway, I'll give you guys a break now. Thanks for reading. Also, if you have any good resources on transitioning from Canon to GH, or primers on the GH and MFT mount, I'd love to see them.