HVX200 Bashing

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I guess $500 a day is working out for him. I personally hate that there's people out there that can do this. It's just eroding the perceived worth of the rest of us. Everytime someone sees an ad like this, why would they pay more for less? I should say that I really don't know anything about this guy, and I can understand if he's trying to break into the field by working cheap but DAMN! Don't give all that equipment away at close to a PA's day rate. I wonder what the Mini35 rental goes for, 20 bux?
-Ryan

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Shannon Rawls Ad
Don't believe some of the fake ad's & untruths out there who are upset with this opportunity I am presenting you!
Don't waste money on inferior equipment. I encourage you to call me AND them (together if you want) to get a clear understanding of what you're getting.
Other fake ad's are people who are borrowing or renting cameras and don't really own or know the equipment. Require them to bring proof upon your first meeting.
I OWN EVERYTHING I TALK ABOUT! Please, I cannot stress this enough...ASK QUESTIONS to the people you are planning to hire. Check references, look
them up on IMDB and see what they've done, check their website, see where they operate out of, do they have a business? BACKGROUND INVESTIGATE THEM!
Be my guest to check me out. You'll be surprised on finding who I am and what I do in this business. I won't mention any of my ventures here. *smile*
Even if you don't wish to utilize my production assistance but you would like to "QUESTION" someone else to see if they are worthy of employment, simply
give me a call. Remember, I am a movie producer who wishes to see quality independent productions with or without me being part of the crew.
I will help you ask the right questions to whoever you want to ensure you employ a worthy person for your upcoming project.
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Ok NOW I'm pissed. Who the hell does this guy think he is? I mean, I'm sure STOMPERCISE (link) was a cinematic triumph but come on dude. I hope there's people taking advantage of this guy's equipment to make their own films but I also hope nobody's taking him too seriously.
 
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I love how the only user comment about "Stompercise" is from Shannon [the director] himself, to which he says, "Also, the directing was phenomenal."
 
Shannon W. Rawls write about HVX but don´t show any picture.
Something to hide?
 
[...]my brand new CANON XL-H1 Professional High Definition 24fps cameras (that we will be using use for your production). Best of all, after the shoot is over, you can take your masters and edit your 24p project on your home computer
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LOL, you can NOT, because the f24 mode of the XLH1 can only be captured via the Canon XLH1 itself. No other camera, no other deck. Ah, that's why he's talking about "TWO HD cameras", one for shooting and one for capturing at your studio :)
 
Well, Walter is up to his usual bashing of people in this forum---Maybe we should all send our resumes directly to his home:

[FONT=Verdana, Arial] Well this sums up DVXUSER and this thread you mention: "I got a call from EVS today that my number came up and that there was an HVX available. After hearing about the noise issues from HVX owners I decided to pass. "

These people are expecting a prosumer camera to perform like a pro camera. As I mentioned in another thread, that is going to sink them.

Second, most of the people who bicker and argue on that site are not working in any regard in any field of video from what I can see so to them it's not about their skills but the hammer. And no one built a house spending 12 hours in the Home Depot starring at the hammers wondering which was best. Silly thread over there. Most of them have turned into silly threads. I guess that is why so many folks are leaving DVX for better conversation other places as a few noted here recently.

The Varicam was noisy in certain situations when I first used it and the solution as a person who works towards experience, not working with the best equipment was a workaround. But to these guys, it's the cameras fault and there is no problem with anything else. It's sort of like saying you know how to drive because while you never actually drove, you read the drivers manual.

That's what I was getting at in my other post. You can't expect miracles from a consumer camera. In fact you can't expect miracles from a $60,000 camera. If some of these neophytes spent more time learning the skills rather than worrying if the nails they use are copper or a tin composite, they'd realize that the camera becomes the least important part of the equation and the challenge of good cinematography isn't what camera to buy but how to work around life's obstacles. Twenty years ago folks had a lot less to work with and in many ways made stuff better than we do today.[/FONT]
 
I'm assuming that's Graff? I think he makes some VERY good points that perhaps people don't want to hear. I think this is taken slightly out of context....he's referring to the HVX discussion here (which I personally can't stand, even though I'm interested in the camera) The mods decided that Walter's comments here were out of line.....that's their call. But I don't think Walter is really "bashing" anyone here.....in fact he's not even bashing the camera, just telling people to be realistic about these things.

Besides, we're talking about Mr. Shannon W. Rawls here:nads: !
 
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Yeah, thats Walter "The Great Embelisher" Graff who is such a top notch professional he posts on 40 different forums all day long. That is a thread from DV.com. I'm too lazy to get the link but if you go over there its in the camera section. I just don't like to see people use the Internet to defame others. By the way, although he claims he "had an HVX right in front of him" there is no doubt in my mind that he has never actually used the camera.
 
But on the bright side, his site documents where the HVX "cluncking" noise problem originates.

"Its design is clunky"

Now that we know, maybe Panasonic can address this in the 200A.
 
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Yeah, thats Walter "The Great Embelisher" Graff who is such a top notch professional he posts on 40 different forums all day long.....I just don't like to see people use the Internet to defame others.
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Isn't that what you're doing?
 
250 a day on 18k gear.. that's a lot of days or a lot of frosties.. however you want to shake it down.


Isn't this also the self-prophessed owner of the Canon who really didn't know how to run it very well. Guess that'd be a winning combination right there. More people should go off and buy the canon... but somehow I think it's kind of suffering the middle child/red-headed step child reputation...
 
Wow Haakon! I'm fully aware of that and made reference to it in an earlier post in this thread. The mods made a decision and I respect their right to do so. But personal attacks are personal attacks, whether someone was banned from here or not. The guy can't even respond for goodness sakes. I know in general Walter's not very popular around here, and talking smack about him most likely isn't going to be punished, but that doesn't make it right.
-Ryan
 
Oh man, that's hilarious... Stompercise, lol!

Ah, the egos that some people have... just goes to show that it's not all about the camera when it comes to filmmaking. It's about the attitude as well.
 
I remember a recent thread over at DV.com where Walter said everyone over here at DVXuser was following Panasonic blindly and if anyone spoke out against them they were banned. And that was an unprovoked statement. Not talking smack here, just stating facts.
 
Hybrid,

Walter continues to make personal attacks about other DVXusers on other forums where they don't post, either. I guess it's just the way our society works. To make a wide political analogy, look at people's attitude toward Saddam Hussein... I would wager that most people in this country would like to see him fried for his actions when that means they would be doing "the same thing" (taking a life) in return. Does that make them any more right or any better than him? I don't know, but my guess is the majority of people wouldn't have a problem with it. Obviously Walter's posts were more personal and more excessive than Rextilleon's, however, seeing that Walter was the one who got banned and is Rextilleon is still here. I wasn't trying to upset you with my response.
 
Under no circumstances could I or would I work for $250 per day! That is stupid! I've run into this syndrome before on a number of occasions. Usually, a person in this position assumes he can advance and charge more realistic prices later. I got news for that person, you don't and you can't. You'll get work but it really won't be the kind that will get you interesting work later. This is the type of person who wants to get somewhere in a hurry and is just spinning his wheels. Enough said.
 
Personal attacks are not allowed here, that's true as a general policy. I think Jarred posted something like that he doesn't mind if someone takes a poke specifically at Walter because of the way Walter has been so adamant, persistent, and vocal about attacking DVXUser, but even so it's not a good trend to start here.

Haakon pointed out that Walter was banned here, yes. That was not in any way an attack by Haakon. By Walter's own admission he's gotten himself banned from every forum he's participated on, except DV.com which is the last forum he says he's allowed to post on. There's a common denominator there, folks. Haakon was okay to point that out, as it illustrates that this forum was certainly not alone in taking that action.

Even so, personal attacks are not good no matter what the source or the justification, so we should probably close this down before it spirals out of control.
 
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