hvx monitor: Dell 2405FPW $780

Barry, thanks again for all of your help. I just got my 2405 in the mail, and it's beautiful. I'm used to seeing 1920x1200 on my small 15" laptop, so I've found I wish I could squeeze even more resolution out of this puppy! But it certainly is nice to have a big, clear workspace on my desktop.

I'm curious, Dell also sells LCD TVs, but the biggest one - 37" (which dwarfs both the 24" and brand-new 30" monitors) has a screen resolution of only 1366x768! I've noticed that nearly all LCD TVs (from any manufacturer) are like this. If it was a matter of not having the technology to make a higher resolution LCD panel at an affordable price I could understand - but I'm looking at a 1920x1200 picture on a 24" LCD monitor on my desktop at this very moment so I know that's not the case. Besides the fact that it's got a tuner and speakers (which are probably subpar at best), why would anyone buy an LCD "TV" when they could have an LCD "monitor" at the same cost or less? The 24" Dell even has component inputs!
 
Haakon said:
Barry, thanks again for all of your help. I just got my 2405 in the mail, and it's beautiful. I'm used to seeing 1920x1200 on my small 15" laptop, so I've found I wish I could squeeze even more resolution out of this puppy! But it certainly is nice to have a big, clear workspace on my desktop.
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You got one too! The 2405 has made my others now look like shiat!
 
PappasArts said:
You got one too! The 2405 has made my others now look like shiat!
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Yeah, I just decided to bite the bullet and get one... I figured I could always return it if it just didn't work out for me.

Problem is, I bought it to use as a field monitor for the HVX (and what a huge field monitor it would be!!) and now I'm never going to want it to leave my desktop. Lol...

I've still yet to see the quality of the HVX through it (as I'm still waiting for my HVX), but that's what I'm still really waiting to see. I've noticed, as many others have said, that SD upconverted on the monitor looks like sh!t, so I'm a little scared as to what even the 720 might look like upconverted as well. However, I played a DV (standard def) file from my computer fullscreen in the native 1080 mode, and that didn't look bad at all. DVDs even look fantastic fullscreen if you play them on the computer (you just can't upconvert from the analog outputs or it looks like crap). So what I'm really hoping is that by using the HVX's component outputs at 1080 (even if I'm recording 720), and displaying the content on the monitor natively at 1080 it will still look very, very good. *Crossing my fingers...*
 
boo said:
haakon, try editing/viewing on this:

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11042448&whse=&topnav=&browse=&s=1 :beer:
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I owned one of those briefly, didn't like it. SD scale up was bad, bad, bad, A couple dead pixels, DVI input was hit or miss on three different video cards, even the VGA input didn't work quite right for me.

Cheap plastic build quality, and no auto power down... monitor just goes bright blue when the PC hits sleep mode. Not big enough for the living room, yet too big for a computer monitor at short viewing distance... just a bit off-target for everything, IMO.

However, it's true 1920 by 1080, and hooked up to the HD-SDI output of a NLE via HDLink it would look fantastic for HD monitoring in the right room/environment.

Jim Arthurs
 
Hehe, I think he was just finding the crappiest 1920x1200 LCD TV he could find because of my question. I still don't understand why the "reputable" companies don't offer them, however.
 
Jim Arthurs said:
I owned one of those briefly, didn't like it. SD scale up was bad, bad, bad, A couple dead pixels, DVI input was hit or miss on three different video cards, even the VGA input didn't work quite right for me.

Cheap plastic build quality, and no auto power down... monitor just goes bright blue when the PC hits sleep mode. Not big enough for the living room, yet too big for a computer monitor at short viewing distance... just a bit off-target for everything, IMO.

However, it's true 1920 by 1080, and hooked up to the HD-SDI output of a NLE via HDLink it would look fantastic for HD monitoring in the right room/environment.

Jim Arthurs
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Rushed out to Costco (in Canada) to check out the Sceptre LCD.

They don't seem to have one... drats.:(

1920 by 1080 for that price is ok by me, even if it is cheap plastic.
 
Haakon said:
Barry, any thoughts on the LCD monitor vs. "TV" problem?
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You mean the Sceptre vs. the Dell? No, no idea at all about the Sceptre. Looks like an amazingly low price for such a large panel; but I have no idea how it performs.
 
No, not about that. I'm wondering why there are LCD "monitors" (ie, the new 30" Dell display) that go up to 2560x1600, but their biggest LCD "HDTV" (32") is only 1366x768 natively! I've had a laptop with a 1920x1200 screen for two years... it's not like the technology isn't available. And the prices are very comparable, too. With everyone throwing around "1080p" these days, I don't understand why the large majority of LCD TVs are still such low native resolutions - especially when the same company makes LCD monitors with bigger resolutions in smaller sizes. What gives?
 
Don't know on that one; probably something to do with quantity of manufacturing for computers vs. for homes? But bigger LCDs are on their way (37" 1080p from more than one manufacturer) and SED is supposed to be here within a year, and I think I read that the SED would be introduced at 55". CRT-like shadow and contrast performance, but LCD thin-ness and cheap prices and low heat... sounds promising!
 
Yeah, SED looks cool. I just wish they'd make some smaller televisions (I live in an apartment and don't have any room or desire for a 60" TV) that can actually show true 1080 HD. The upconvert on the 24" Dell looks like utter crap, yet an SD file in a "fullscreen" window displayed in the "native 1080" mode of the monitor looks really good. So there's a form of "uprezzing" right there that's more than acceptable. Actually, DVDs played back through the computer out to the 1080 mode look fantastic... you just can't go through those composite/component inputs and expect any results. I wish these companies would make it easier on us...
 
I'd gladly pay $100 extra for an "uprezzing chip" in my monitor that could make lower-than-native-res playback actually look decent.
 
Apologies in advance if this has been discussed before- the search engine kept rejecting my query.

I've ordered a 24" Dell and recently found this article on barefeats.com:

http://www.barefeats.com/lcd.html

with a link to:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25117

They essentially say that Final Cut Pro may drop frames when playing back on the Dell 2405fpw at 60hz, but that 60hz is the only refresh rate at which the Dell is capable of displaying 1920x1080.

Anyone experience this? Will it be a problem?

Please disregard if you've already been through this.
Thanks.
 
I am running 2 Dell 24"s on my FCP machine and have never noticed a single dropped frame.

Maybe Apple is upset that Dell has a better monitor at half their price? Hmmm


dolby
 
I read that SED and OLED monitors due out in a year or two have the "scan line" problem when you shoot the monitor with a video camera.

Likely, there will be an easy shutter speed that takes care of it, but it was sure nice to be able to shoot the LCD and plasma monitors without the worry over this problem.

Just what I read...don't know if it's gospel or not.

Regards,

Cre8tive
 
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