Barry_Green
Moderator
It's not there yet but there's a page reserved for it:
https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/support/mvp_e/user/index_eu.htm
https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/support/mvp_e/user/index_eu.htm
HVX Linux source code coming...
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Barry_Green
Moderator
Yes, but we don't know specifically what functions the Linux code control. It might be very simplistic, or it might be the whole firmware/operating system. We won't know until it's published.
TwistedLincoln
Veteran
This is certainly a good thing. Although technically, anyone should be able to write Panasonic now and order a physical copy of the source code (assuming, of course, Panasonic intends to fully comply with the GPL).
Unfotunately, I'm not sure having the source code easily available will do much, at least not right away. It would seem that there aren't too many Linux users that use an HVX (or at least very few who speak up). And while I am an avid GNU/Linux user and fan, I don't yet have the programming knowledge necessary to do anything of value with the HVX source code.
More importantly, without some kind of emulation environment, I can't imagine anyone making any real modifictions. Imagine flashing the HVX with a modified firmware that doesn't work right... you could have some expensive problems if you're not careful.
What I mainly want to see are P2 drivers for Linux. As it stands, there doesn't seem to be a way to offload P2 cards in Linux without somehow tying up the camera.
Unfotunately, I'm not sure having the source code easily available will do much, at least not right away. It would seem that there aren't too many Linux users that use an HVX (or at least very few who speak up). And while I am an avid GNU/Linux user and fan, I don't yet have the programming knowledge necessary to do anything of value with the HVX source code.
More importantly, without some kind of emulation environment, I can't imagine anyone making any real modifictions. Imagine flashing the HVX with a modified firmware that doesn't work right... you could have some expensive problems if you're not careful.
What I mainly want to see are P2 drivers for Linux. As it stands, there doesn't seem to be a way to offload P2 cards in Linux without somehow tying up the camera.
The Panasonic engineers I've talked to confirmed that the P2 camera's run for the main part on Linux. Which, of course, is a good thing. But, to comply to GPL and LGPL license rules, all portions of source code used should be made available to the general public.
The 'under construction' page has been up for months. The fact that the engineers admitted that the cameras contain GPL'ed code, means that at the moment, Panasonic is in direct violation of the terms described in GPL and LGPL. Wether we like Panasonic or not, they should get there act together and release all used libraries. They could( and should!) be sued at the moment, big company or not...
Also, if ( when!) they release the source code, don't get your hopes up of being able to use anything. It will be a bunch of standard libraries. All HVX specific stuff will be property of Panasonic, which they aren't obliged to release under GPL rules.
Only if someone was able to obtain the full source code, and a way to update the firmware of the camera, you could start modding the camera. But that code will be guarded like the CocaCola recipe... And knowing the HVX and Panasonic, it will already be tweaked to the limit.
The 'under construction' page has been up for months. The fact that the engineers admitted that the cameras contain GPL'ed code, means that at the moment, Panasonic is in direct violation of the terms described in GPL and LGPL. Wether we like Panasonic or not, they should get there act together and release all used libraries. They could( and should!) be sued at the moment, big company or not...
Also, if ( when!) they release the source code, don't get your hopes up of being able to use anything. It will be a bunch of standard libraries. All HVX specific stuff will be property of Panasonic, which they aren't obliged to release under GPL rules.
Only if someone was able to obtain the full source code, and a way to update the firmware of the camera, you could start modding the camera. But that code will be guarded like the CocaCola recipe... And knowing the HVX and Panasonic, it will already be tweaked to the limit.
khmuse
Tech Guru
I think that hoping for full source code (commented or not) is pretty wishful thinking. This doesn't mean that a very resourceful individual or team couldn't hack pretty far down into it even without the full source. It would be a big task, but pretty interesting things could result.