HVX 16:9 in DV mode?

sodotoguwangus

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I understand that the HVX will record true, native 16:9 images when in DV mode.

But I'm slightly confused because the aspect ratio options on the HVX menu are
4:3, WIDESCREEN and SQUEEZE. (At least this is the case when shooting on mini-DV.)

Which option is the native 16:9 -- WIDESCREEN or SQUEEZE?
 
So if I shoot squeez mode, and burn to DVD, and then play back on a 4:3 TV, the footage will play back like a letterbox dvd film, correct?
 
no it will NOT be letterboxed.. it will play\back squeezed on a 4:3 TV, I've already tried it... it has nothing to do with your camera... it has something to do with your dvd encoding programing... you need the iDVD or DVD studio pro, it has 16:9 option..
 
how do you know he doesn't have that?

and what mode you shoot in does affect how it plays on different monitors ... that's the first of 4 stops where choices you make effect getting it to play in the right aspect starts.

1 Shooting
2 tagging the master
3 encoding the DVD
4 having your DVD player set up correctly.

you do have to tag the video as anamorphic but it has as much to do with your DVD player as it does the encoding.


your dvd player's set up menu allows you to tell it whether you have 16X9 or 4:3 television and some let you choose whether you want to display 16X9 on 4:3 as letterbox or pan and scan.

But the SHORT answer to your question, Sodo, is YES -- shoot native 16X9, make sure its tagged on your final file, and encoded correctly on your final disc and it will play back correctly on both 4:3 and 16X9 monitors as the DVD player will interpret it.

The good news about it playing correctly is that most DVD players (in this counttry at least) ship with 4:3 selected. So most people never even have to go into their menu as most have 4:3 sets and teh ones that care enough to have widescreen sets probably know how to go into their DVD menu and switch it ... or they'd care enough to figureout why their widescreen criterioen series gladiator has black columns on the SIDE.
 
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Jack Daniel Stanley said:
how do you know he doesn't have that?
cause he said he has a 4:3 tv. the black bars don't magically appear unless you tell it to on a 4:3 tv either through editing or through encoding...

Jack Daniel Stanley said:
your dvd player's set up menu allows you to tell it whether you have 16X9 or 4:3 television
He want's the black bars to come up like with Hollywood movie DVDs.. that setting makes no difference, even if you have a 16:9 tv and a dvd player that set to play out to a 16:9 set, which in this case I do, it still won't work the way it works on Hollywood DVDs, sure it will be unsqueezed, but it won't do the letter boxing on a 4:3 tv, like "The Matrix" DVD can.. the image will just be squeezed on the 4:3 screen (which is what he has) you have to encode it to do both...

I know the new version of iDVD from Apple supports 16:9 encoding.. go check it out.
 
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1) Shoot squeeze
2) tag your finished file as 720X404
3) drag it into DVDstudio Pro, or a compirable program that can burn 16X9 DVD's and ENCODE /burn your DVD ... last I checked iDVD could not, but I haven't used it in a couple of years.
4) make sure your DVD player is set to letterbox, not pan and scan, if you have a 4:3 television, and widescreen if you have widescreen.

It will magically play letterbox on your 4:3 TV and and any other 4:3 TV that you send it to just like the Matrix (unless they changed their DVD settings to widescreen for some reason even though it shipped ready for 4:3)

It will magically play without letterbox on a widescreen TVs just the way the Matrix does (unless they are sitting around watching all their movies in the wrong aspect ratio)

... I promise.

the only other caveat is that it will have letterbox in 16X9 if you letterbox your 16X9 to 1.85 or 2.35 just like the Matrix.
 
cool, I haven't touched iDVD since I got DVD studio pro ... makes since though, should be a pretty standard feature nowadays.
 
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what is the quality like? I have to shoot some casting that may end up the finsihed program, but dont want to deal with HD for casting. Seems like the anamorphic DV could be the ticket for decent up conversion??

anyone tried this or can comparequality with DVX footage?
 
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