HPX170 - A Second Look

Agreed - i think a too few many scarlett fanboys need to remember that until its on sale - it can't be compared to anything.

I for one will def get one if it meets the specs but thus far the hpx 170 looks great - i'm definately gonna be grabbing one!
 
lawriejaffa said:
Agreed - i think a too few many scarlett fanboys need to remember that until its on sale - it can't be compared to anything.

I for one will def get one if it meets the specs but thus far the hpx 170 looks great - i'm definately gonna be grabbing one!
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Exactly. I will definitely purchase a Scarlet if it lives up to the specs but who knows, if they meet the release date, does that mean you'll be able to get your hands on one? We don't know anything about it other than what's down on paper. Keep in mind those are temporary specs subject to change. At this point, you can't claim that it will do what you need it to.

That being said, I'm sure it will be a great camera, but don't postpone your film shoots with the hopes of shooting 3K. If you're film is good and you shoot it on the Hpx170, chances are it will get picked up anyway. No one in their right mind will turn down a good film if it wasn't shot 3K, etc.

I'm sure RED will deliver a great camera, but until we know what it is capable of and not capable of, don't think it's the best camera for you. That's just advice, not trying to be mean here or anything.
 
If Scarlet has the same rolling shutter issues that the EX-1 has, count me out. Have been shooting with the EX-1 a lot over the past month and it is a great camera EXCEPT when it comes to shooting with fast camera motion. I hope that RED doesn't give Scarlet a CMOS imager with a rolling shutter, it seems to be a bad combination.

Dan
 
I don't think it can be avoided. In all honesty I'm going to have a Scarlet but it won't be the only camera I own. It'll be just another film stock to pick from.

Although the EX-3's BnH price makes me think that I might be owning a CMOS sensor second cam sooner than I expected.

Good grief.
 
Back to the HPX-170, Barry, has Jan or anyone at Panasonic indicated that they will hopefully be better prepared for the onslaught of demand than they were on the original HVX?

Dan
 
I would expect the HPX170 to be less than the HVX200, too. After all, they took out the tape drive, so that should lead to some savings. Maybe the $6000 is the MSRP, and street price will be lower come September. The EX1 is only $6500.
 
And, they also added HD-SDI, new ccds, and a host of other feature additions that were requested by members.

I wouldn't expect it to be cheaper (thought it's possible, I guess). Maybe the same, maybe a bit more at first. I would probably expect it to retail fro somewhere around the cost of the hvx when it first came out and then to fall to current retail prices of the hvx200 within due time.

5300-5700 retail on day one is my guess. Tape drive ain't going to save that much money. In my opinion, if anything it would add value due to the fact that you now have a camera without the moving parts of a tape drive that will likely come with the same 5 year warranty of the other HPX series of cameras as a result. 5 year warranty.

Later,
Jason
 
Hi,

I do believe that we will receive in the first month a good supply but keep in mind there are about 200 dealers and we have a lot of direct customers alos looking at this camera for brodact news/stringers, so I don't think I have ever see a really cool product get introduced where we didn't have a back order for at least a couple of months. The 200 was exceptional as the back order seemed to last way too long, but as Dan pointed out it was ground-breaking. What we did would be analogous to the EX1 if the EX1 delivered with the HDCAM compression in it and CCDs. We took our top end codec and made it available to the masses. I think that took a lot of courage in that it could have hurt larger camera sales. It has proven quite differently, Sales on all cameras have steadily grown, ecept Varicam, but I think that is just due to the fact that people want a P2 Varicam and that is coming my friends. Those two cameras promise to be just awesome.

All the best,
Jan
 
Let's hope that that price drops. Doesn't look like they are allowing for an pre-orders just yet.
 
The DRS should attract quite a number of the wedding crowd Id imagine. Shame its not on 24p settings, would have made a good companion tto the 500.
 
DRS could be somewhat ideal for weddings, when you consider you're usually looking at a worst-case scenario there of groom in black tux, bride in white dress, etc.

Also, I got it wrong -- it's not just 1080/60i, but DRS also works in 720/60P. It cannot work in slower frame rates, but it does work in 60, so for those wanting to employ it in their slow-mo footage the possibility exists.
 
HD-SDI port , that thing just pumps the price pain... it's the same happened with Canon Xh G1 ... nobody has noticed the jigsaw? I think the EURO price will be very very high, damn! And you must add P2 cards (2x64GB)... so the final price will be almost 8999 euros or more! If Panasonic Usa takes down the price, the euro price will be "acceptable", but they must cut the price at least 2000$ from my loved beast!
 
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