HPX170/7D Questions

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ian9

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Hello -

I own a HPX170 and a Canon 7D. I shoot music videos, short pieces for online magazines, short films/docs , etc. I have a couple questions that I was hoping someone could help me out with.

I'm very comfortable with the Panasonic cameras. I've graduated from the DVX to the HPX and am very happy. I also just recently bought a 7D as a B-Cam and am very satisfied with it's quality/depth. Here are my questions:

For my scene settings on the HPX I have combined a mix between Barry Green's "Detail" and "Dynamic Range." I like the look but am also concerned about all the talk about Max Dynamic Range in the camera. I was wondering how much I should think about this while I shoot. I am comfortable with color correction in final cut, but was always taught to shoot as "correct" as possible and keep post work to a minimum if possible. Should I stress dynamic range in post or get the colors and contrast as close to what I want on the camera itself?

Second, the HPX doesn't have the "jello-cam" problem or the aliasing issue that the 7D has. But I prefer the close-up shots with the 7D because of the depth. Is it crazy to mix the two on a shoot? HPX for the wides and mediums and the 7D for the CU'S?

Third, on a shoot, is it OK to mix the Scene settings on the HPX? Say I like the "Filmic" look on one scene, but then would prefer a more "Detailed" stress on some shots in another. As long as I don't mix them in the scene, would it just look too strange to match them? Can I maybe even mix them in the same scene?

And fourth, In Barry Green's book he says for the web to put up the detail on your camera to get a sharper image. But for theater, lower the detail. Most of my stuff is on the web, but what about for TV? Is the higher detail setting still going to be acceptable? I obviously want the sharpest image possible without it look electronically boosted.

I've done tests, but would just like to hear some extra input/advice. Thanks!

ian
 
If your mixing two very different cams, you will probably need to look for the best compromise rather than the HPX scene file you might really prefer.

Grant
 
ian9 said:
Third, on a shoot, is it OK to mix the Scene settings on the HPX? Say I like the "Filmic" look on one scene, but then would prefer a more "Detailed" stress on some shots in another. As long as I don't mix them in the scene, would it just look too strange to match them? Can I maybe even mix them in the same scene?
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This all depends on what type of look you are after. There are times when different scene files within a production make sense depending on what the production is. If you want to keep a consistent look and prefer the filmic scene file you can just edit that file to increase detail when needed and then re-edit to go back. You are still preserving most of the filmic scene parameters.

If you start changing from one scene file to another within your shoot, unless you intentionally want a variety of looks, this would probably deter from the quality of your production. Using the same scene file throughout (with minor editing of that scene file) is generally fine for most things I do.
 
makes sense. thank you. have you ever mixed both cameras? If I match the colors as close as I can on both cameras, would it be too distracting to use both? One for the wider shots and one for the close-ups? And for the detail level, is +4 still OK for videos that might air on TV? It looks amazing on the web but i'm not sure if it would look too electronically boosted on television.

Also, can anyone recommend a good matte box that I can use with both cameras?

This is all extremely helpful. Thank you!!!
 
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