How would you screen capture cloud-based programs for inclusion into a UHD project?

puredrifting

puredrifting

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I have a client who wants to produce UHD resolution training videos with their implementation of Salesforce as well as a pile of other HR and payroll programs. We will be scripting, producing motion graphics, editing, but I am a bit stupmed on how we can screen capture UHD resolution recordings of these Cloud based programs? One thought would be to borrow my friend's new iMac 5k and output the signal using a Thunderbolt to HDMI convertor into an Atomos Ninja Assassin at UHD resolution? I have no idea if this would actually work because I don't have the gear available to try it. Does anyone know if the Assassin will accept and record computer output versus camera output? Can the iMac 5K operate and output at a resolution of 3840 x 2160 at a video-friendly frame rate? I suppose I could try some screen capture software but it seems that recording the actual iMac output to a device would be simpler and easier, especially if I need that large UHD size? I've used screen capture software before with very mixed results and I have never attempted to record such high resolution output, not sure how software would work?

Suggestions and or ideas about how you would do this?

Thanks!
 
Your idea should work as long as the Atomos likes the iMac signal.

I've done the exact same thing in HD using a Ninja Blade and it worked perfectly. But occasionally you hear of some field monitor or recorder not liking the output of some particular device.
 
I can verify that the Odyssey will happily capture computer output. I have no doubt the Assassin will as well, although there's always the question of HDCP. But I used the Odyssey to capture the screens while developing my DVX200 scene files, and it worked a treat.
 
This is just a bad idea. when you go with a bigger screen resolution then all the fonts and icons are smaller. So when any normal user that tries to view it will have trouble making out the text or icons.

If your do end up doing this you will want to change the browsers zoom level so the text is at least readable. You might be able to just use Quicktime X's built in screen record.
 
All good advice guys. We want to do this in UHD resolution because most of the program is going to be custom motion graphics, client has a variety of uses, may end up projected or shown in 4K in boardrooms. I agree about the font size and resolution, the thought there was we would zoom in and out with screen magnification like most editing program tutorials do. As far as copyrighted images, most of these programs have been co-developed into custom versions for this company so they have good relationships and give millions of dollars to most of these companies like Salesforce so I don't anticipate too many issues or pushback with clearing the use of the screens. Strictly internal use only for new hires, will never be on the web, will never be shown publicly. Another thought I am playing with is just capturing the screens with stills at pretty high res and then 1080 video output (or max of the computers graphic card resolution, like 2560 x 1440) and then keep the video smaller on the screen, framed with the motion graphics. This isn't a training video on how to use the software, it is merely a 2-3 minute overview that shows what the program is, the benefits to clients and the benefits to the new employee in doing their job better and more efficiently.

Barry, I wonder if Atomos could tell me if HDCP could be an issue with the Assassin?
 
What's the rationale for a hardware solution vs. a screen recording software like Camtasia? Do you achieve higher resolution via the hardware?
 
puredrifting said:
Another thought I am playing with is just capturing the screens with stills at pretty high res and then 1080 video output (or max of the computers graphic card resolution, like 2560 x 1440) and then keep the video smaller on the screen, framed with the motion graphics. This isn't a training video on how to use the software, it is merely a 2-3 minute overview that shows what the program is, the benefits to clients and the benefits to the new employee in doing their job better and more efficiently.
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When I've done internal sales/sizzle reels that used websites/webpages that is what I did. Using stills and then animating them later takes a bit more elbow grease, but you can end up with much better end result than just doing a screen recording.


-Andrew
 
puredrifting said:
All good advice guys. We want to do this in UHD resolution because most of the program is going to be custom motion graphics, client has a variety of uses, may end up projected or shown in 4K in boardrooms. I agree about the font size and resolution, the thought there was we would zoom in and out with screen magnification like most editing program tutorials do. As far as copyrighted images, most of these programs have been co-developed into custom versions for this company so they have good relationships and give millions of dollars to most of these companies like Salesforce so I don't anticipate too many issues or pushback with clearing the use of the screens. Strictly internal use only for new hires, will never be on the web, will never be shown publicly. Another thought I am playing with is just capturing the screens with stills at pretty high res and then 1080 video output (or max of the computers graphic card resolution, like 2560 x 1440) and then keep the video smaller on the screen, framed with the motion graphics. This isn't a training video on how to use the software, it is merely a 2-3 minute overview that shows what the program is, the benefits to clients and the benefits to the new employee in doing their job better and more efficiently.

Barry, I wonder if Atomos could tell me if HDCP could be an issue with the Assassin?
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Depending on the OS/software support of OS features, you should be able to scale the OS UI elements/font to a larger size to make it more readable (in system settings) prior to either software screen capturing or hardware video recording.

Sounds like from the scope of what they want from your material, almost sounds as if doing both screen capturing AND video recording would be useful for at least a portion of the content.
 
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