How was this effect created?

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Dan_The_Man

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb55ep-DrSo

The effect is at 0.35

I really cant work out how they did it. Do you think they just wobbled the lens and looped those frames over a few times? There's something very 3D about the effect that I really like.

I would really appreciate your thoughts on this one.
 
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Dan_The_Man said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb55ep-DrSo

The effect is at 0.35

I really cant work out how they did it. Do you think they just wobbled the lens and looped those frames over a few times? There's something very 3D about the effect that I really like.

I would really appreciate your thoughts on this one.
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That's pretty cool. Not sure about the effect itself, but I don't think they looped the frame. I think the actors just stopped moving. You can see the one on the right, his chain keeps moving, and both of them stop moving at different times too.
 
Aah, well spotted on the chain moving! I guess that they told the talent to just try and stop moving at the same time while the camera man wobbled the camera up and down.

It's all about experimenting I think. I want to do a similar effect in a music video that I am doing soon so I will prolly just have to rent a fisheye before the shoot and play about with it.

Anyone have any guesses on which lens they used for that shot?
 
This is a crazy shot. I've no idea how to do it, but it seems pretty hard to move the camera like that. Anyone else have any ideas?
 
I had an old camera once that had broken lens threads. My wide angle lens would wobble. I never used it like this, but that could be one way to go about it...
 
William_Robinette said:
That's pretty cool. Not sure about the effect itself, but I don't think they looped the frame. I think the actors just stopped moving. You can see the one on the right, his chain keeps moving, and both of them stop moving at different times too.
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Exactly. My guess as well.

Super wide angle lenses exaggerate foreground movement. Thus small pulsating movements in the camera would have little effect on the distant background but lots of effect on the two people who, based on lens length, are probably only 4 feet away from the lens.
 
If you look carefully, there is a lens flair in between the two rappers in that shot. First it moves with the lens moving, then it transitions to a post effect because the flare stops moving although the shot is still moving. Fun effect.

Dan
 
anyone saw the effect at 00:31 when the guy sitting down comes off the wall and steps on the ground. its a similar effect but more subtle. def a post effect .
 
Are you sure that's a post effect? If so, how was that done? This one is still baffling me!

Can anyone tell me what kind of lens they used was? Any guesses?
 
I do similar tricks in post using a combination of After Effects wiggler and photoshop. I would simply photoshop the two rappers out. Fix the back ground so it bleeds off a little and then use wiggler to shake the background keeping the rappers independent of the clip. It isn't one simple thing, just a combination of a bunch of simple things.
 
One option is to ask the director himself, Tony Truand.

contact@tonytruand.com

From his website (which is unreal by the way) it looks like he edits the majority of
his work. I wouldn't be surprised if he was pleased to tell you how he got the effect.
I've learned from this site that artists are very willing to share their knowledge.

Good luck.

P.
 
I googled "Dented Records". On their site I found a listing for the video - Directed by Tony Truand.
There was also another link to the video on Tony Truand's Myspace page.

Drop him a line. I'm sure he'll get back to you.

Peter

EDIT - Here's another reference, from Tony Truand's YouTube page

Its here! The full length video for the new single from Foreign Beggars 'Contact' produced by Noisia. Taken from the forthcoming album
United Colours of Beggattron dropping 19/10/2009 on Dented Records / Essential Music. POW! Directed by Tony Truand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR-pFVVvQ1Q&feature=related

P.
 
Dan_The_Man said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb55ep-DrSo

The effect is at 0.35

I really cant work out how they did it. Do you think they just wobbled the lens and looped those frames over a few times? There's something very 3D about the effect that I really like.

I would really appreciate your thoughts on this one.
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Looks like camera movement (back and forth on editing) plus the frame distorting with pivot points in the middle and in the corners (can be done in AE with that plugin that gives you multiple points to distort the image - forgot the name!).
 
Pietro Impagliazzo said:
Looks like camera movement (back and forth on editing) plus the frame distorting with pivot points in the middle and in the corners (can be done in AE with that plugin that gives you multiple points to distort the image - forgot the name!).
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Could you expand on this? I don't really understand. Thanks! :)
 
Hold your camera handheld, move it in a slight fast motion forward.

While editing, play it back and forth.

In AE add the distortion/bending according to the image to enhance the overall effect.

Notice how the top of the building at the background bends a little, it shows the frame is being slightly distorted inward and outward.

In 0:39 the same bending effect is used but the shot is not played back and forth and camera movement is not the same as 0:35, so the overall effect is drastically reduced.
 
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