How to win every debate

jcs

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Why do most people comment on the internet?

1. To share their experiences
2. To give good or bad feedback on products/services
3. To ask for help in solving problems
4. To promote their products/services
5. To engage in drama- arguments/trolling
6. To procrastinate from doing work
7. To have fun

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A common pattern is regardless of 1-7 above, many discussions end up in heated debates. If one truly wishes to learn new things, the following concepts/tools can be useful:

1. We can debate with two common priorities, to be 'right' (ego without logic) or to search for truth, wherever may lead (ego still present, but with a logical goal)
2. What is ego- a construct of consciousness that maintains self-identity, which can go to irrational/emotional lengths to preserve its active perceived reality
3. What are facts
4. What is logic
5. How to construct a logical proof
6. What is truth
7. Why quickly accepting truth when pointed out by others is useful

(1): if we're always looking for truth, vs. trying to be 'right', we're open to new ideas and accepting other viewpoints which may ultimately be a more accurate view of reality.
(2): understanding how our minds work can help us to better get along with others, to solve problems more efficiently, and to lead happier lives.
(3): a fact is something that when reviewed by many different consciousnesses is generally accepted as real or true. That said, some things once considered to be facts turned out to be not accurate, so it's important to keep one's mind open that accepted facts can be invalidated with new evidence.
(4): logic is a form of math, Boolean algebra, predicates, propositions, etc., that can be used with facts to make estimates of the validity of more complex things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_logic
(5): when facts and logic are combined, one can construct logical proofs. This form of thinking is useful in debates, and can provide guidance for groups working to find a way to agree on a particular set of facts to imply additional facts based on logic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_proof
(6): truth is unique to every conscious beings' perspective. The first step is to recognize that we are all the same in that our views are all unique to each of us. The next step is to construct logical proofs so that multiple consciousness can agree on what is true. With the understanding that if any of the prior facts are no longer accurate, the proof can be invalidated and new proofs must be constructed to find the most accurate iteration of the next view of the truth.
(7): when following 1-6, if one's facts, logic, and/or proof is invalidated, if one immediately accepts this result, one is once again working with a valid logical proof, as it's now been corrected and they are once again 'right' for their ego (everyone is human), as well as consistent in their search for ultimate truth (consistent with facts and logic to form a valid formal proof).

When everyone in a group practices these methods, debates won't disintegrate into emotional personal attacks (ad hominem) and the group can stay focused on searching for and finding the truth, wherever it may lead.
 
+1 JCS. I love it. I think I'll send it to the British Parliament. They needed this when they started down what is now the Brexit fiasco road. Sad to see the old country going through all the s***e it's going through.

Chris Young
 
And if you’re willing to be wrong and always seeking truth over being right, you’ll end up being right much more often in the long run.

Put another, aim at truth and you’ll get “being right” thrown in (in the long run). Aim at being right, and you quite often lose both.
 
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And if you’re willing to be wrong and always seeking truth over being right, you’ll end up being right much more often in the long run.

Put another, aim at truth and you’ll get “being right” thrown in (in the long run). Aim at being right, and you quite often lose both.

Right & true!
 
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