How to safely set someone on fire?

before you light that up you might want to call your local fire dept and let them know what you are doing so if a spectator sees it and calls you wont get in trouble...
 
Capt, I know most indie folk can't afford a pro. The point being, that it is prob a better idea to not attempt this as a result.

I look here all the time for info on filming, but I'm just thinking that if I wanted to set someone or something on fire and was not comfortable enough in my existing skill set to do it....that I might want to hold off.

Maybe try to shadow a pro for a while or SOMETHING. Jeez, we are talking pretty dangerous stuff here. I just don't want the guy making ninja's out of plywood and t-shirts to hurt himself.
 
Capt, I know most indie folk can't afford a pro. The point being, that it is prob a better idea to not attempt this as a result.
And my point is, there have got to be more than one way to do this, without striking a match to a human, or paying out the wazoo to have someone do it for you.
 
All necessary safety measures will be taken when attempting this stunt, I'm not an idiot even though this is a pretty stupid thing to try and attempt. Thanks for everyones comments.

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I AM NOT GOING TO SET ANYONE ON FIRE

thats been settled, its just too damn dangerous.
That being said, I'm going to see what i can come up with using the dummy.
 
Ok so I just ran into this problem a couple weeks ago. Always keep this site in your favorites. It has tons of FREE fire and gun blasts shot on greenscreen. The Dv BBQ Bill color keyed to black and sped up worked great in my film. Then you just keyframe it to the motion of the person and maybe add a bit of light around it and you've got a great fire effect.:violent5:

http://www.detonationfilms.com/UnitK-8.html
 
I've seen something like this before - the "Pepper's Ghost" effect. It works quite well, but lighting can be a problem and to do it right there's a lot of build out involved. I like the idea though. At the end of the credits he should add "No real actors were harmed in the making of this film." :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

i remember seeing this on a behind the scenes doc. i forget which movie. they had a dummy that they lit on fire and they had a piece of glass infront of the actor. the fire of the dummy was then reflected in the glass over the actor and the result looked pretty good. man i wish i remembered which movie so i could watch it again and tell you more.
 
Alright, this is my rough demo (3megs qt), my AE skills are mostly from watching various Andrew Kramer tutorials.

What I did, i shot video of a dummy being shot with an arrow, then key framed as the arrow shot by an adjustment layer, then keyed some stock fire video onto the path of the arrow parenting it to the adjustment layer. then added another keyed fire stock video (i couldn't figure how to make the edges undefined (notice the strait line where the fire cuts at the bottom) )

Constructive feedback please.


if you don't feel like the download i youtubed it as well

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SrOknPUCNmM


----only dummy's where harmed in the making of this film. nothing was actually set on fire---
 
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so there are 3 pages of people telling me not to use live talent unless they are hired trained professionals and as soon as i make a demo with AE they tell me to use real people... are my AE skills that bad?
 
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