How to manage files on a PC - P2CMS only? Has P2 support stopped?

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Bowen

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It seems to me that Panasonic has totally stopped supporting P2 cards, else why does P2CMS only function on an ancient 32bit XP operating system??

My old XP laptop with the useful P2 card reader slot is slow-as. Not wanting to muck-around with dual-boot on my work machine, I have P2CMS installed on the laptop. How else to manage files?? Is there any other way? I have tried talking to Panasonic but they just send me a "customer feedback form" to which they never respond in any case.

I seem to recall Barry saying he doesn't use P2CMS anymore. Then what? (Assuming other priorities than buying additional Panasonic hardware.)

How hard can it be for Panasonic to provide owners of P2 equipment, having spent big on P2 cards in the first place, with software that a current operating system is capable of reading. Panasonic continues to be either negligent, disdainful or completely ignorant of non-huge customers needs. I love working with DVCPro HD but after 18 months of waiting for a P2CMS upgrade it's evident it just ain't gonna happen.
 
I use P2 Viewer. I don't know why you're saying it only works on ancient 32-bit XP, I have it installed on my 64-bit Windows 7 system and it works fine.
 
But the P2CMS system, Barry - that is what works only on a 32bit XP OS.

But the P2CMS system, Barry - that is what works only on a 32bit XP OS.

"I use P2 Viewer. I don't know why you're saying it only works on ancient 32-bit XP, I have it installed on my 64-bit Windows 7 system and it works fine." - Barry

Barry by introducing the P2 viewer when we're talking about the P2CMS, maybe you have found a way to organise, arrange, delete your .mxf clips etc, without P2CMS. How is that done?

My point is that the DVCProHD codec is not PC file-management friendly - it needs a special management system. That is what the P2CMS intended to address. It does it well enough, but enormously slowly on old systems. Why will not Panasonic recognise this and look after its P2 customers.

I would be enormously pleased to learn of some PC friendly method to organise clips other than P2CMS. I don't know of any so any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Bowen,

I am not trying to troll you here, but there may be a reality check for you. How much responsibility does Panna have to support an old slow CPU? Am I missing the point here?

Grant
 
ggrantly said:
Bowen,

I am not trying to troll you here, but there may be a reality check for you. How much responsibility does Panna have to support an old slow CPU? Am I missing the point here?

Grant
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Given you say you're not trolling Grant, then the point you're missing, is that most everybodys' editing PC's these days require a 64 bit environment to even operate smoothly. It is not the responsibility that Panna have to support slow CPU's but quite the opposite. The point you're missing is that Panna does not support a new fast CPU unless they are running an old slow operating system!
 
P2CMS not the P2 viewer Barry

P2CMS not the P2 viewer Barry

Barry you say you use the P2 viewer on a 64bit machine. Granted this is not a problem. My post was specifically about the P2CMS software, and specifically not about the P2 viewer.

P2CMS is the only way Panasonic have provided to move P2 assets readily between folders etc. AFAIK the P2 Viewer cannot do this! I am asking when Panasonic may deign to consider upgrading their software so that a modern 64bit OS can read their O2CMS software???

Your response was not helpful. Many people have been asking this same question on this and other forums for eighteen months now without a credible response.

How the hell are we supposed to manipulate these incredibly PC unfriendly mxf files? It certainly can't be done using the P2 viewer, unless Barry has some amazing methodology unknown to us.

Helpful replies from someone who has read the post would be really appreciated. I have heard there are some commercial applications that will do the job if Panasonic continue to totally neglect their P2 consumers. Anybody?
 
AFAIK the P2 Viewer cannot do this
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You are wrong. You can drag and drop clips between mounted virtual cards in the 2 clip Bins. Just create a virtual p2 card of the card you want to move clips from. Then create a new virtual p2 card of where you want the the clips to go. Open one in the top bin and one in the bottom and drag and drop between them.

This is all in the manual.
https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/support/cs/csregistp2m/soft/p2viewer_36manual_e.pdf

I am running it on 64 bit os. Perhaps a glance at the manual would help out. It would at least keep you from telling the guy who literally wrote the book on these cameras (Barry Green) what the technology is not capable of.


Good Luck

J
 
Thanks for the P2 Viewer tip - but 64 bit and P2CMS?

Thanks for the P2 Viewer tip - but 64 bit and P2CMS?

Thanks Jason for the tip - your short explanation has helped workflow enormously and was all that was needed.

How you operate P2CMS on a 64 bit machine though has got me stumped. I've tried everything to work around the 32 bit limitations without success. Any further tip on how you got it to work on your 64 bit machine, and what OS version? (P2 Viewer of course works fine on 64bit.)

Thanks again,
Bowen
 
Sorry if I was unclear Bowen I am running p2 viewer on 64 bit os. I never use p2CMS I find it to be a bit clunky. Sorry I can't offer any more tips but In the years I have been shooting p2 I have found p2 viewer works for all my needs.
 
Bowen said:
Barry you say you use the P2 viewer on a 64bit machine. Granted this is not a problem. My post was specifically about the P2CMS software, and specifically not about the P2 viewer.

P2CMS is the only way Panasonic have provided to move P2 assets readily between folders etc. AFAIK the P2 Viewer cannot do this! I am asking when Panasonic may deign to consider upgrading their software so that a modern 64bit OS can read their O2CMS software???

Your response was not helpful. Many people have been asking this same question on this and other forums for eighteen months now without a credible response.

How the hell are we supposed to manipulate these incredibly PC unfriendly mxf files? It certainly can't be done using the P2 viewer, unless Barry has some amazing methodology unknown to us.

Helpful replies from someone who has read the post would be really appreciated. I have heard there are some commercial applications that will do the job if Panasonic continue to totally neglect their P2 consumers. Anybody?
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This is kind of rude, Bowen. The sarcasm isn't necessary when someone's trying to help. And if you're asking someone for help, you shouldn't get snippy with them.
 
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