How to make you're self digitally on fire?

Fire Effects

Fire Effects

You may want to check out Trapcode's Particular, it's a 3D particule plug-in for Adobe After Effects. It's not exactly cheap, but it allows you to control the particles (be it smoke, fire, dust, etc.) in every way you can think of (size, shape, intensity, pattern, etc.). There's a demo version that you can play around with to see if it's what you need.
 
Just a little note; don't forget to light the clean plate with some flickering orange light. Then it will look like the fire is actually emitting some light.

Anyone else notice how the lightsabres in Star Wars III (and the rest) cast no light onto the surroundings apart from onto Yoda. I always thought that they could have tried harder with that effect... maybe used a Kinoflow as the prop sabre :laugh: ..come on, someone else must have done it too, when the gaffer isn't looking :thumbsup:
 
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mmm said:
Just a little note; don't forget to light the clean plate with some flickering orange light. Then it will look like the fire is actually emitting some light.

Anyone else notice how the lightsabres in Star Wars III (and the rest) cast no light onto the surroundings apart from onto Yoda. I always thought that they could have tried harder with that effect... maybe used a Kinoflow as the prop sabre :laugh: ..come on, someone else must have done it too, when the gaffer isn't looking :thumbsup:
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No i dont have to do it cause it a thing only hes sees the movie is black in white ecept for the fire. most of the movie is shot out doors so i can digitall brighten him or just use a shine board etc for it. so i dont need anything like that.
 
Don't fart and smoke at the same time!

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HA! Coffee!

I'd have to agree with the 2 layer format, John and everyone is recommending, I haven't seen fake (CGI) fire ever work! I buy it for the movie's sake, but my friend always says "God that sucked" and I'm drawn right out of the story...


I was just thinking, by looking at your storyboard:

"Damn, Samuel L. Jackson is going to be pissed when you light him on fire..."

The line in the scene is:

Travolta: "Do you know what they call a cheese burger in Australia?"
Jackson: "I don't know motha ****a, I'm on fire!"

Good luck Spidey, let us know how it turns out.
 
You could try what they did on LOTR. They filmed a bunch of small, live flames and then drove them around using a particle system. Not 100% real but should give more realistic results.
 
I'm not sure how well this would work...but in theory it seems decent....
1) Make some napalm (let gas eat styrofoam until it can't anymore. It will be a jelly. you can use a bar of soap instead of styrofoam but you'll have to heat the gasoline...don't use liquid soap....)
2) put the mixture into the freezer and set the freezer to the coolest position it can be in. (this is kind of how they did the fire scene in spawn)
3) make sure the actor has a long sleeved shirt.
4) get something that has a hard time burning (kevlar works...you can get it out of bullet proof vests and very high quality gloves used for grilling but that's kind of expensive...maybe you can find something else) and tape it the the actors arms under the sleeves. make sure it's not too bulky.
5) put some of the cold napalm on the actors arms, light him, do the scene very quickly.
6) put the fire out with a fire extinguisher...water definitely isn't a good idea....

I'm really not quite sure how safe this is...experiment thoroughly first....

CG can't look too great....
 
CrackerJap said:
I'm not sure how well this would work...but in theory it seems decent....
1) Make some napalm (let gas eat styrofoam until it can't anymore. It will be a jelly. you can use a bar of soap instead of styrofoam but you'll have to heat the gasoline...don't use liquid soap....)
2) put the mixture into the freezer and set the freezer to the coolest position it can be in. (this is kind of how they did the fire scene in spawn)
3) make sure the actor has a long sleeved shirt.
4) get something that has a hard time burning (kevlar works...you can get it out of bullet proof vests and very high quality gloves used for grilling but that's kind of expensive...maybe you can find something else) and tape it the the actors arms under the sleeves. make sure it's not too bulky.
5) put some of the cold napalm on the actors arms, light him, do the scene very quickly.
6) put the fire out with a fire extinguisher...water definitely isn't a good idea....

I'm really not quite sure how safe this is...experiment thoroughly first....

CG can't look too great....
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Yup, let's try this on you first. You do it and then let us know how it works out for you.

Nothing better than letting someone that has no clue light you on fire.........
This should only be done by professionals, and a professional wouldn't do it this way. Have you read anything in the posts before this? If you do this, could I have anything that you have that might be expensive that I could use? Forget napalm, forget gasoline, forget the actor if you do it this way. But, Make sure you have a glass of water to put him or her out. Geezus!
 
Napalm type stuff can work well for effects that don't require actor participation but to put that on someone and light it? Dude it's much easier to just do it the good ol' fashioned hollywood way if you're going to do a practical effect (which of course requires highly trained pros).
 
Give me your footage and I will make it happen. Just compositing and Maya using a particle simulation. Its no problem.
 
post the finished clip here once visulfx gets the animating done. Ive been reading about this problem for some time and I would really like to see how it turns out.
 
back to Combustion - even v3 can do a decent job. Just need someone who's a good compositor and your actor is shot against a background you can key or roto easily against. Just as long as your fire man doesn't have to be up front - little bit of distance helps. The particle system is good, but really close up it starts to look to regular and you can almost see the sprites - not enough depth.
 
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