How to CAST a Movie

Zak Forsman

Major Contributor
i'm starting a new series at NEW BREED called “How to BLANK a Movie“. NB Filmmakers were asked to contribute all of their personal guidelines, DOs and DON’Ts on a variety of topics – casting, writing, directing actors, editing and distribution.

Everybody loves lists, myself included! Today I’ll start with “CASTING“. What’s fascinating here is not only what the filmmakers share in common, but the more unique insights that have emerged in their own processes. Some great advice in here…


  • MARK HARRIS >>
  • The first thing that comes to mind is, do not, under any circumstances, hold auditions in your home. I’ve heard of people doing it without actors minding, but it’s such a massive violation of professionalism in my mind, I would never, ever insult an actor by doing it.
  • But the other thing I’ve started really doing is asking for a reel. In 2009, EVERY actor should have a reel online. It saves everyone so much time, and allows you to see the actor in the context of a movie.
    When they come in, I always put them on camera. It’s old Hollywood-think, but I think it’s absolutely true that the camera likes some people and does not like others. This has most to do with the actor’s ability to leave themselves alone when a camera’s on them. This is extremely difficult to do, but absolutely imperative to a film. It’s what separates a good screen actor from a bad. It’s also what makes someone a movie star.
  • I never ask to see a monologue. I give them sides, and then work with them as if a rehearsal. Again, the key thing I need in the audition is that they can absolutely leave themselves alone and behave as if no one is watching.
  • I never ask them to mime anything. Nothing is dumber to me than this. If the script says: “She picks up a glass,” I tell them to ignore it.
  • I am always shocked in auditions, how many actors don’t understand how to act for camera. Many don’t seem to understand that when performing on camera, you don’t have to do a single thing to communicate your intentions, feelings, etc. You just have to be. The camera will see everything. So I see a lot of actors come in and sort of flail about, until I stop them, sit them down and get them to do nothing. Like James Cagney said: “You walk in, plant yourself squarely on both feet, look the other fella in the eye, and tell the truth.” Deceptively simple, but profoundly accurate advice for acting on camera.

    MIKE HEDGE >>
  • Cast someone who wants to make the role their own. In the end it will look more real on screen….

    KEVIN K. SHAH >>
  • Ask actors if they are available for your shooting dates BEFORE the audition.
  • Shoot your auditions as well as your Q&A afterwards with actors you like.
  • Have actors that are called back read with each other if they have scenes together.
  • Ask actors to improvise a scene using simple objectives like: You want to leave, she wants to stay.
  • Ask actors what favorite movie role they wish they were cast in / they could have played (tells you a lot about your actor’s aspirations)
  • Audition scenes that are NOT in the film, but show a variety of “changes” in emotion, pacing, and thought.
  • Do not cast anyone that blinks too much. You can’t control it on-the-day or in the edit.

    JUSTIN EVANS >>
    DO:
  • take months to cast. If you can cast for 10 hours a day, six days a week for three months you have only begun to be on the right track.
  • write lengthy character descriptions for every role no matter how small. If you trivialize how you
  • treat your own characters why would actors not do the same?
  • write a director’s statement and include it with the materials for your actors. You are auditioning for your actors as much as they are auditioning for you.
  • use breakdown services and actors access as the backbone of your audition process. It is free and if you manage this correctly it will lead to thousands of submissions.
  • attend all casting sessions yourself. After the screenplay, this is the greatest set of decisions you’ll make as a filmmaker.
  • provide water in the front room. A case of water will last all day and cost you $8.00. It will surprise the actors auditioning. It will help them relax. It will enhance their performance. It will separate you from the rest of the filmmaking world who spend money on a fancy space but provide nothing for the actor.
  • rent the cheapest space you can find. Putting money into your audition space is ego-driven.
  • Who are you trying to fool? If you’re budget is 2 million or less any money spent on the space is money not spent on the movie.
  • provide lengthy sides two weeks in advance of the audition. Most auditions provide minimal sides the night before an actor is to audition. Is it any wonder most actors show up unprepared?
    insist that the actors are off book. If you’ve been a professional and provided sides two weeks in advance then there is nothing wrong with insisting that the actors have their sides memorized.
    be kind, be patient, be quiet, be humble…and after the actor leaves be critical, picky, demanding, cynical and require definitive proof that an actor can fully deliver what you need.

    DON’T:
  • spend your money on a casting director if you have less than $500,000.00 USD to make your film. You can’t afford a great casting director, you can’t afford to exploit a casting director’s relationships with famous actors and you can’t expect a casting director to take your film seriously.
  • Spend that money on your space, on water and on yourself, so you can attend every day and sift through the actors on your own.
  • be surprised when you discover that casting is slow, boring, tedious and painful. If you see 100 actors you’ll be lucky to find one actor worth casting. That’s the ratio, that’s the business, that’s your job…and if you don’t like it then get out of film now.
  • write character names like “Joe” or “Girl #2″ or “Crazy Guy”. Any good actor simply ignores these types of postings on Actor’s Access.
  • expect good actors to audition if you aren’t paying them. How many auditions do you think they’ve been to where a director says “We’ll supply you with a DVD when we finish the project. And, we’ll feed you every day.” If you offer $50.00 a day you’ll immediately jump into the top 10% of auditions on Actor’s Access.
  • neglect to put one of your trusted teammates in your front room acting as the receptionist. The front room is where actors are the most honest. Have your receptionist write down every time an actor undermines another actor, is rude to someone else, takes two bottles of water instead of one, refuses to share sides or treats the receptionist as anyone less than the direct line to the producer. The audition begins in the front room.
  • Show up late to your own audition. Seriously. You look like a jackass.
  • forget to provide a qualified actor to read across from the other actors. If you can’t afford to hire one, then audition actors two at a time so they become their own readers. If you have a non-actor read lines it kills the performance of the actors auditioning for you. You’ll get false-negatives. Your job at every turn is to enable actors to do their best. If you do everything in your power to help actors do their best 1% will rise to the challenge…and as low as that percentage is, given enough time you’ll find the cast you need to make a killer movie.
  • cast for faces, height, eye color, hair color, breast size or body type. It’s fair to expect an actor to be in shape. However, unless your project is about lifeguards or male strippers, who cares if they have a six-pack? Actors of ordinary stature, looks and fitness have an ability to take on the aura of a superstar if they can bring a character to life. When you cast for a face, that’s all you’ll get. When you cast for a performance you’ll get both. Dustin Hoffman looks like a movie star. Why? Because he’s an amazing actor. Robert De Niro looks like a movie star? Why? Because he’s an amazing actor. Casting for physical attributes in any way is the surest way to guarantee you’ll look past every actor who could have transformed your movie into something special.
  • apologize for being picky, perfectionistic or demanding. Any good actor will respect this. Any great actor will be far more demanding of themselves than you ever could be. And, if this turns off some actors then you’ve done yourself a favor. It is best to scare away wannebes early on than cast them and realize halfway through a project that they never understood how anyone can make a movie, but only the exceptionally brave and driven can make a great one.
  • Excuse tardiness, rudeness or lack of preparation from an actor. If you’ve done the above you’ve proven yourself to be exceptionally responsible and respectful of the acting process. Therefore, it is fair for you to expect the same from those auditioning for you.

    GARY KING >>
    DO
  • be courteous
  • give sides in advance to the actors
  • audition the actors in the waiting room — evaluate their demeanor the moment they check in with the casting assistant
  • give direction during the audition to see if the actors listen

    DON’T
  • approach the characters only looking for a specific type in mind or you may lose out on someone special
  • tell people you will get back to them if you don’t plan to — just thank them for their time

    ZEKE ZELKER >>
    DO
  • audition as many people as possible for a role. If you aren’t finding who you need hold auditions in another city
  • Hire a great casting director if you can, they can me a valuable resource.
  • Hire actors who you have seen act before
  • If there is nudity involved: be upfront, describe exactly how the scene will be shot and why the scene matters. During call backs ask the potential cast member to get undressed to the point required in the script, with a member of your team present of the same sex of the potential cast member
  • Rehearse, rehearse, rehearse

    DON’T
  • Hire friends
  • Hire actors who worry about how they look
  • Sleep with any of your cast
  • Take advantage of anyone
  • Vacillate, make a firm decision and stick to it, if not your cast will walk all over you
 
Wow. Really awesome and helpful! My dad is a life-long equity stage guy here in Chicago (and is being super awesome by appearing in later episodes of my webseries) and he's just now started doing lots of commercial work and auditioning. Definately going to forward this to him. I think it will help (sure helps me!!)
 
Re: one of Justin Evans' "DO" list items:

"Insist that the actors are off book. If you’ve been a professional and provided sides two weeks in advance then there is nothing wrong with insisting that the actors have their sides memorized."

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I disagree strongly here, especially on the "insisting" part. If you're auditioning 100 actors (or possibly many more) for one role that will pay them little or nothing, I find it very presumptuous, and yes, even arrogant, to 'insist' that all 100+ of them memorize the sides. Who the hell do *you* think you are, buster?

Actors audition *constantly*, and get cast only a very small percentage of the time. Fully memorizing audition sides takes many of us (yes, I act too, as well as write, direct, shoot, etc.) a substantial length of time, quite possibly hours. Some actors are quick memorizers and some are not, and that trait has *nothing to do* with their real acting ability. If all actors were compelled memorize the sides for their auditions, even if only the ones they got well in advance, they'd probably starve because they'd never have any time to do *anything else*.

Harrumph!

: )

Furthermore, from the other side of the table, in my own experiences with casting, auditions by actors who attempted to be off-book were often negatively impacted by it. Watching an actor get that 'deer in the headlights' look on his/her face as they struggle to remember a word or line does *not* a quality audition make. I have actually found myself annoyed at actors due to this, like "please stop showing off that you (mostly) memorized the lines, and show me what you can do as an actor, dammit". I don't *care* if you've memorized it. Star-Kist wants actors that can *act*, Charlie Tuna, not just memorize...

I found that the actors who had prepared well, but 'took it off the page' from the sides in hand as needed generally did a better job of acting. This is also the way I audition as an actor, and I have been fortunate enough to get cast for about 30% of the roles I've auditioned for.

FWIW, in the feature I co-wrote and cast about a dozen paying roles for last year we didn't hire a single one of the numerous actors who took it upon themselves to audition off-book. Why? Because they got out-acted by others who didn't...
 
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I should have added that Zak's post is full of excellent observations by the many who contributed, and Justin Evans's were by no means an exception. He made lots of great, well thought out points. I really only took exception with that one...strongly...but just that one.
 
Great post and agree on 99.9%

One thing though....why not hire a new casting person who does not charge a lot but wants to break their way in just like new actors? Even a new casting person can help short cut a lot.

You mentioned seeing 100 potential people to find 1 good talent. If the casting person is worth their weight...they will only call in the top 5 or 10 actors for a part and you won't have to sift through tons of bad actors.

I have done casting on the side for indies and don't get paid a lot but you can ask those I have helped and they will tell you it short cuts a lot of issues. Even be willing to talk to a good acting teacher who wants to move over to casting...they often know tons of actors, even ones they did not train. Offer them a little money and a credit and you may find yourself speeding up the process a ton without eating away at your budget!

Just a thought...I really do think you hit everything else right on the button!

And ditto what DJ said about those who have only cast background....

PS...on the 'off book' debate...if the actor got the script 2 weeks ahead and knows what scene...they SHOULD be off book. If they can't get off book for a scene within 2 weeks...they may have big problems on set. BUT...if they got the script that day or a day before...Cold Reading is still the norm...script in hand!
 
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PS...on the 'off book' debate...if the actor got the script 2 weeks ahead and knows what scene...they SHOULD be off book. If they can't get off book for a scene within 2 weeks...they may have big problems on set. BUT...if they got the script that day or a day before...Cold Reading is still the norm...script in hand!

If you've hand-picked 5 or 6 known high quality actor candidates as you advocated above, and given them the sides 2 weeks in advance, then definitely - off book should be expected. But if you're calling 100 or more? For a low-paying gig, micro-indie gig? No way. Not in this man's army...
 
If you've hand-picked 5 or 6 known high quality actor candidates as you advocated above, and given them the sides 2 weeks in advance, then definitely - off book should be expected. But if you're calling 100 or more? For a low-paying gig, micro-indie gig? No way. Not in this man's army...


Ted...this is the age of email. I don't care if the director is reading 10 or 100. If the talent got the script 2 weeks in advance of the audition, every one of them better be off book or they are not worth the time on set. What if you have script changes on set and they eat up time because they can't learn a few line changes?

Only cold readings should be with script in hand. The number of talent you are auditioning should not dictate on or off book...the amount of time the actor has the script should dictate that.

Now, if you read someone for one part that they are off book for but then decide they should read for something else...sure...they won't be off book because the 2nd part would be a cold read for them...UNLESS you told them to prepare both roles for the casting session.
 
Off book means you know the lines. You no longer have to hold the script as you work.

got it. well in that case, i've auditioned many actors in LA (hundreds) for three features and I'd say a good majority had the sides memorized. perhaps 80%? is that not the norm?

might have something to do with this – I also don't use online casting services any more because in my limited experience the level of professionalism and dedication to the craft is generally stronger amongst actors who are picking up backstage west and physically mailing in headshots and resumes. the folks that only have to click a button for the projects they want to audition for have been far flakier – meaning we've had a heck of a lot more "no-shows" for the audition we scheduled.
 
I tend to not want actors off book. Like I said, I treat an audition like a rehearsal and want to see how the actor works. And though I like them to come in with some choices about the character, and some ideas to work with, I do not want them to come in with a performance, or any habits already set from memorizing the lines.
 
that's cool. when I write sides for auditions, I am also thinking of how I'm going to adjust the character's objective for the scene. so they'll audition as they prepared it, then I'll give them an adjustment that should reveal if an actor is capable of truly doing it more than one way. for call backs we work more like you I'm guessing. no sides even. just a rehearsal-like "getting to know you" time with lots of improv around defining moments from the character's history... we generally don't audition with any material from the film.
 
Ted...this is the age of email. I don't care if the director is reading 10 or 100. If the talent got the script 2 weeks in advance of the audition, every one of them better be off book or they are not worth the time on set. What if you have script changes on set and they eat up time because they can't learn a few line changes?

Well, I still think this asks too much of the 99+ who will never be cast. Different strokes I guess, as they say...

I also think it greatly depends on the type of project. For a feature or narrative short, I'm much more interested in the nuances in the audition performance than the non/memorization. Like I said earlier, I was actually finding myself annoyed with the 'memorizers' in the feature I cast last year because I felt it added overhead to their mental load that took some (actually, a lot) off of their ability to completely immerse themselves in the imagined reality of the scene, which is where I'm going to be digging for the gold. Regarding the absence of memorization at an audition being a 'red flag' for trouble on set later, I understand that many very fine actors have significant difficulty with memorization. Evidently Robert DeNiro is one of them (I've heard stories of him holding little scraps of paper off camera with his lines scribbled on them). And I would willingly tolerate a superior actor who is 'memorization-challenged' (to a manageable degree) over another whose performance is less interesting.

If we're talking about a TV commercial or series (which I don't have much experience with, at least not on the casting side - but I believe you do), then I think the 'memorization factor' would be far, far more important. Major last-second script rewrites are commonplace there, and at the fast pace and high price per-minute they cost, you can't risk a performance meltdown because of them.

I want to add that I have plenty of respect for your views on the subject, Michelle...
 
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I tend to not want actors off book. Like I said, I treat an audition like a rehearsal and want to see how the actor works. And though I like them to come in with some choices about the character, and some ideas to work with, I do not want them to come in with a performance, or any habits already set from memorizing the lines.

Mark...the cool part about your comment...when I train actors I tell them not to get married to what they think is the obvious choice on how to play the role. I always tell them to look for at least 3 choices. Not only does that have them ready in case they got it wrong...but it also leaves them open to being directed and making quicker adjustments to what a director or casting person might ask of them.

Well, I still think this asks too much of the 99+ who will never be cast. Different strokes I guess, as they say...

I want to add that I have plenty of respect for your views on the subject, Michelle...

Ted..and I have much respect for yours too. My thinking has always been...learning lines and getting them in your memory is one of the jobs an actors is supposed to do. I don't like when an actor comes in staring at the script and can't get their eyes off the page. It makes it harder to figure out what they are capable of.

Memory can be an issue for a lot of us and as I grow older...more and more for me. It takes longer but as I mentioned to Mark above...not only do I teach actors to look for multiple ways of playing a character...I live that. I always try to keep open to what they director might say. His vision is the one I am supposed to follow but at the same time...I want he or she to know I can look at a script and find the information and build a character. It is my job as an actor.

If it means anything...even when I know the script I tend to keep it in my hand in case I go blank or for that matter...the director gives me notes to follow and I use the script as a tool to help me see where he or she is going with it.

But I will always think it is my job as an actor to learn my lines. As mentioned...I always stay open to new directions with the character.

I have found many acting coaches tell the actor to commit...commit...and then when a director asks them to alter things, the actor can't because they got married to doing it one way. I find that if I get it in memory without getting married to one way of doing it...I can follow the redirect better and many of the actors I have trained were surprised by this idea and found they did better in casting calls when they did leave themselves open to the changes.

The simple idea of learning the script and looking for multiple ways to play it prior to the audition has saved me more than once. Even had a casting person ask me how I saw the role...I said I saw it 3 ways and told her all 3. She ended up asking me to do it all 3 ways, then sprung a 4th way by asking me to do the 1st half the 1st way...and the 2nd half of the script the 3rd way....I took a beat to think of how to make the transition and did it. She was a California casting person who ended the audition by looking at me with awe and saying "I love your acting". This was after she had told dozens at the audition that she did not like their acting and could 'see the acting'...so I was happy and defend my method knowing it holds up pretty darned good so far.
 
I have to weigh in here on the "off book" issue.

Here in NYC there are many times when I and actor friends have been so busy preparing for other auditions and interviews and rehearsals etc and its very difficult to be off book for every film or tv audition even with 2 weeks lead time. As Ted said the size and quality and importance of the project is also a factor. I agree with Ted completely. If you can do it, it can be great but the demands of a day to day career sometimes makes it a tough thing to do.

I also have seen and heard about some of our most accomplished film actors who use tricks etc. etc. to do what is needed to know the lines. I know this is not a thread about acting craft but in a way its all connected.

I know people who worked with Brando who said his using little notes with his lines on them all over the set was common and not because he was just lazy. He did it for an actual acting craft film technique so his mind was clear and there was no effort to speak a memorized line but be completely free to be in a moment with the other actor especially if he was given line changes. I wonder if DeNiro picked up the trick from him.
Johnny Depp tells a story that on "Don Juan" Brando showed him how to incorporate this method when needed.

I apologize for getting off the subject but while I have had audition teachers swear by always knowing your lines others say the actual audition is key even if your still on book.

JJ
 
This is probably one of the better threads on dvxuser I've read so far yet hasn't gotten enough love. It's got some valuable info and some info I don't agree with.


AGREE WITH...
1. Ask for demo reels/shorts/footage from every actor because even if they have an amazing audition, they may be horrible on camera acting or look wise. I have witnessed this, I almost don't trust auditions at this point, I have to see something. At the same time they might have one bad day audition but be great on camera.
2. If you're going to do an open call, definitely record the auditions, I always do. Casting really begins there when you play the tapes back and compare them to others. There is no way you'll remember if #20 was better than #4 if you thought both were great. So record them.
3. I agree with having a mole in the waiting area reporting on rude actors/actresses. I don't think you have to get hardcore with how many waters they drink or anything like that, but just have someone observing anything unusual/mean that they do or say. We've not casted an actress before because she was rude in the waiting area, so this is a very true thing. Save yourself the frustration of dealing with troublesome people on set.

I DISAGREE....
1. I disagree with not asking for a monologue, to be honest, there is nothing worse for an actor than having 1 or 2 lines to show what they can do because that's all the role calls for. How are they suppose to really show what they can do? So I think having them do a monologue in addition would not hurt at all to show their range. Not required though. You can also have them read for multiple parts to see more from them.
2. I disagree with using breakdown services as your backbone for casting. I think it's a great service but it's not for every project and it's not for everyone geographically. If you're not in LA, say you're in Denver or Dallas or Atlanta, you will get hammered with resumes from LA. That doesn't help you at all if you're casting for a local low budget indie feature or short. You need locals, so I find the service to not be ideal at all unless you're in LA or have some money behind your project to fly people out. You're better off finding local talent agencies and combing through their roster. You're also better off posting to local craigslist talent sections and on film commission websites in your area.

I'd like to add 2 very important things that nobody mentioned yet............
1. Always setup a separate e-mail for casting for that specific project. You will get hammered with e-mails, especially if it's a feature.
2. The best actors don't come to open calls or casting cattle calls. Sorry to break it to everyone out there, but they simple don't, it's rare in fact. So this talk of not finding your actor and going to another city to do another cattle call is a bad idea. If you want the best actors in your area, you have to actually seek them out and contact them directly, specifically with the role you have in mind for them and will need to meet with them one on one for an audition. This requires you sending the script over first to see if they are even interested, waiting for them to read it. This isn't just how it's done in Hollywood, it's also with local well known/more talented actors in your area.
3. If an actor does not get back to you, does not reply to your e-mails, they are not interested in your project or the role. I know this seems like common sense, but that is how it is. You send the script, never hear back, they have passed, move on.
4. You have to start watching more stuff shot locally if you want to cast the best in your area. Go to local screenings, find locally shot short films. Find film groups/acting classes in your area and go to them or track down their stuff online and look the people up. Get out and network and see who the best are.
5. Sign up for an IMDb pro trial account or paid account and search all the actors and talent agencies in your area. A really great service to track down and even sort them by their IMDb starmeter to see who the hottest actors are in your region.
 
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