How much of a RUBBER DUCKY is it going to be to edit?

[John Trent]

I know the camera's not even out, but I really don't want to wait several more months to find out how well the workflows work. Please tell me what is currently known about editing DVCPRO HD. The format has been out and somebody has had to have worked with it. So... how does it compare to editing DV and HDV?

I've read it's just as easy as DV with the latest greatest pc's (something I don't believe) to the ominous warning that those that venture forth are in for a rude awakening.

I've read HDV is easier to edit. I've read DVCPRO HD is easier to edit. So you can see my problem. How much rendering is involved in each? Is it true that HDV requires a faster processor (because of the GOP) and that DVCPRO HD requires a huge array of raided hard drives because the files are bigger? HDV files can be transferred directly to Blu-Ray discs but I read something about no current computer has enough horsepower to write out in real time DVCPRO HD to HD DVD's. Is this true? Which will be more work and require more work-arounds?

I think I'm most interested in the 720p 24p format, so that should help.

Thank you.

 

[esperman]

I've read HDV is easier to edit. I've read DVCPRO HD is easier to edit. So you can see my problem. How much rendering is involved in each? Is it true that HDV requires a faster processor (because of the GOP) and that DVCPRO HD requires a huge array of raided hard drives because the files are bigger? HDV files can be transferred directly to Blu-Ray discs but I read something about no current computer has enough horsepower to write out in real time DVCPRO HD to HD DVD's. Is this true? Which will be more work and require more work-arounds?

I have never edited HDV..but I believe it will really tax your system, because of the GOP. There are others on the forum with experience on that issue. I'll let them weigh in on that one.

I've cut Pro 50 and 100 on final cut 4.5 and 5 via firewire and have had no problems on a dual G5. For the projects I needed, this worked fine. Storage really isnt an issue for anyone already working in uncompressed SD. The files are not that big. (and most people shooting HDV seem to use cineform codec to edit, and I imagine the files sizes between Cineform and DVCPRO-HD are similar in size.)

The only thing I would worry about is viewing your HD...whatever the flavor.

 

[steindj]

I've cut Pro 50 and 100 on final cut 4.5 and 5 via firewire and have had no problems on a dual G5. For the projects I needed, this worked fine.

Whew!! I have a dual 1.8 G5. That's good to know. So, from what I'm gathering, an upgrade to FCP 5 HD from FCP 4.5 HD (my current package) isn't necessary for HVX?

The only thing I would worry about is viewing your HD...whatever the flavor.

You mean in terms of monitor selection? What do you recommend?

 

[esperman]

Whew!! I have a dual 1.8 G5. That's good to know. So, from what I'm gathering, an upgrade to FCP 5 HD from FCP 4.5 HD (my current package) isn't necessary for HVX?



You mean in terms of monitor selection? What do you recommend?

Well, I have yet to pull footage from P2..so I can't say final cut 4.5 will work with the wrapper...you may have to update to 5.

Monitor selection and input. I assume you won't have a dvcpro hd deck...so I think you'll need a DVI to SDI adapter for a pro monitor, or just use a DVI input HD monitor maybe?

 

[J.R. Hudson]

Just make sure your machine has the muscle.

 

[stokestack]

Why is the RUBBER DUCKY thread closed after four posts?

Why is the RUBBER DUCKY thread closed after four posts?

And on the same day?

Anyway,

"I've read it's just as easy as DV with the latest greatest pc's (something I don't believe) to the ominous warning that those that venture forth are in for a rude awakening."

Believe it. There's no interframe compression (so every frame stands alone), so editing this stuff is trivial compared to HDV. Way, WAY easier.

DV50 is easily manageable on any reasonably modern computer, and DV100 (HD) just demands decent hard-drive performance (but not even RAID). Divide the megabits per second by eight to see roughly what your data-rate requirements are in megabytes.

The biggest problem customers are going to face will be the lack of DV50 and DV100 codecs on Windows. This has been discussed in other threads.

 

[J.R. Hudson]

Because the subject matter has been discussed 4 million times; the original poster should try using our search function as we are attempting to cut-down on redundant posts.

In the future please refrain from starting another thread on a purposely closed one and if you have further questions feel free to send a Private Message.


Thanks