How many times to use a tape?
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CaptainMench
Carbonite Member
Re: How many times to use a tape?
Aejaz -- How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop?
Only one if you need to get to where you want to.
That said, If you really want to use the tape for capturing "real" stuff, only once. Too many chances for errors after that - even slight is too many.
That said, I've got a tape I still use when messing around with different settings and such... been back and forth over that tape maybe 5 times by now.
Think about it... 10 hours of video cost me $60US... how much would 10 hours of film have cost??
Good luck,
CaptM
Aejaz -- How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop?
Only one if you need to get to where you want to.
That said, If you really want to use the tape for capturing "real" stuff, only once. Too many chances for errors after that - even slight is too many.
That said, I've got a tape I still use when messing around with different settings and such... been back and forth over that tape maybe 5 times by now.
Think about it... 10 hours of video cost me $60US... how much would 10 hours of film have cost??
Good luck,
CaptM
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: How many times to use a tape?
Even when messing around I use a tape ONE TIME. $5.00 a pop is nothing to stress over. Using the same one again can lead to your heads getting ucky.
Yeah, I said ucky.
Even when messing around I use a tape ONE TIME. $5.00 a pop is nothing to stress over. Using the same one again can lead to your heads getting ucky.
Yeah, I said ucky.
Boy
Active member
Re: How many times to use a tape?
[quote author=John Hudson link=board=Events;num=1084955075;start=0#2 date=05/19/04 at 21:06:58]Using the same one again can lead to your heads getting ucky.[/quote]
has there been any tests done to verify that? just wondering where you got that info.
[quote author=John Hudson link=board=Events;num=1084955075;start=0#2 date=05/19/04 at 21:06:58]Using the same one again can lead to your heads getting ucky.[/quote]
has there been any tests done to verify that? just wondering where you got that info.
Z
Zoomforce
Guest
Re: How many times to use a tape?
I did a test with the MQ's awhile ago.. I started seeing dropouts after 3 re-records. For $5, its not worth the risk. You can also get a hard drive if needed.
I did a test with the MQ's awhile ago.. I started seeing dropouts after 3 re-records. For $5, its not worth the risk. You can also get a hard drive if needed.
Z
Zoomforce
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Re: How many times to use a tape?
[quote author=phd link=board=Events;num=1084955075;start=0#6 date=05/21/04 at 14:16:27]I did a test an have no dropouts after 10 re-records. [/quote]
wow.. thats pretty impressive. How many hours do your heads have on them?
[quote author=phd link=board=Events;num=1084955075;start=0#6 date=05/21/04 at 14:16:27]I did a test an have no dropouts after 10 re-records. [/quote]
wow.. thats pretty impressive. How many hours do your heads have on them?
GlassSidewalk
Active member
Re: How many times to use a tape?
My 2 cents... I guess.
I stripe (In theroy, but sometimes I forget) and then record once and once only. Its just not worth the risk of losing that interview or that shot or whatever because you used a tape over and over again. Then again I understand those that have never shot film and $5.50 a tape might be expensive, to me its just amazing that its so cheap.
My 2 cents... I guess.
I stripe (In theroy, but sometimes I forget) and then record once and once only. Its just not worth the risk of losing that interview or that shot or whatever because you used a tape over and over again. Then again I understand those that have never shot film and $5.50 a tape might be expensive, to me its just amazing that its so cheap.
Z
Zoomforce
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Re: How many times to use a tape?
21 hours is pretty new heads, my camera is pushing 300 hours now so I imagine that is the reason after 3 runtrhoughs it starts to drop.
21 hours is pretty new heads, my camera is pushing 300 hours now so I imagine that is the reason after 3 runtrhoughs it starts to drop.
Z
Zoomforce
Guest
Re: How many times to use a tape?
no... they DVX heads are very good, ITs just I dont clean mine as much as I should.
no... they DVX heads are very good, ITs just I dont clean mine as much as I should.
Mike_Donis
Veteran
Re: How many times to use a tape?
Jarred, does that mean that you can clean your heads *after* 300 hours of use, and they'll run like new, or does that mean that you have to regularly clean them, in order for them to work cleanly after 300 hours?
Jarred, does that mean that you can clean your heads *after* 300 hours of use, and they'll run like new, or does that mean that you have to regularly clean them, in order for them to work cleanly after 300 hours?
Re: How many times to use a tape?
This discussion has been going on since almost the beginning of time or should I say Tape?
For those of us who came out of the analog days using a tape more than once was not only asking for trouble, it was trouble.
Then came digital tape with its zero's and one's. I remember some years back talking with a Sony tech (I had just purchased the new VX1000 and thought I died and went directly to heaven) and I asked him how many times you could use a digital tape. He said that they had run one tape over the same exact spot for over 5000 times. He said they did that more as a joke than anything else, but it still held together.
When I was shooting DVCAM, I would use the 184's over and over and never had a problem. Back then, 184's were pretty pricey. In any case, even though I"ve done it in the past, I wouldn't recommend ever shooting A footage on a recycled tape. However, they're great for testing, vacation footage, etc...
Have never had a problem with that.
This discussion has been going on since almost the beginning of time or should I say Tape?
For those of us who came out of the analog days using a tape more than once was not only asking for trouble, it was trouble.
Then came digital tape with its zero's and one's. I remember some years back talking with a Sony tech (I had just purchased the new VX1000 and thought I died and went directly to heaven) and I asked him how many times you could use a digital tape. He said that they had run one tape over the same exact spot for over 5000 times. He said they did that more as a joke than anything else, but it still held together.
When I was shooting DVCAM, I would use the 184's over and over and never had a problem. Back then, 184's were pretty pricey. In any case, even though I"ve done it in the past, I wouldn't recommend ever shooting A footage on a recycled tape. However, they're great for testing, vacation footage, etc...
Have never had a problem with that.
Re: How many times to use a tape?
I have read somewhere that the pollution level, temperatrue, mositure in the air and how u store ur tapes also affects the reusability of ur tapes.
One more Q. Does it really affect the pic quality if having reorded ur footage on a digital tape u properly store it for say 6-8 months?? If yes then they could be the cheapest storage media, without any loss of pic quality.
any suggestions
I have read somewhere that the pollution level, temperatrue, mositure in the air and how u store ur tapes also affects the reusability of ur tapes.
One more Q. Does it really affect the pic quality if having reorded ur footage on a digital tape u properly store it for say 6-8 months?? If yes then they could be the cheapest storage media, without any loss of pic quality.
any suggestions
Mike_Donis
Veteran
Re: How many times to use a tape?
If by that you mean a cheapo MiniDV tape, in perfect condition, then no, you won't lose any quality. Digital is digital, it's all 1's and 0's on the tape, so any MiniDV tape records and holds the exact same amount of digital information. The only problem would be that the cheapo tapes normally *don't* last as long, and you do get dropouts...
If by that you mean a cheapo MiniDV tape, in perfect condition, then no, you won't lose any quality. Digital is digital, it's all 1's and 0's on the tape, so any MiniDV tape records and holds the exact same amount of digital information. The only problem would be that the cheapo tapes normally *don't* last as long, and you do get dropouts...