How does footage from EX1 and HMC150 mix?
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peterarcson
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It'll be very noticeable. EX1 is much sharper.
Thanks for the replies everyone. Sounds like a situation to be avoided.
8string
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While not an EX1, I had a similar experience in the last few months, shooting a three camera shoot for a folk singer, using everything in our small town I could find (G). The left side camera was my HMC150, the center camera was a JVC-GY-HM700 (which I would say is an equivelent to the Sony EX1) and the right side hand held was a Canon 7D. The color matching afterward was quite difficult, you can see that I did not totally succeed at it, especially as the person on the JVC overexposed slightly (as DP next time I will personally check all settings before shooting, but I made an assumption that my buddy would get the exposure right since he owns the 700. We all know what assumptions do).
My experience was that the HMC 150 was by far the best look to the shot, with the least color matching to do. The 7D was hard to deal with, but mainly in that we were trying for one camera that was giving the handheld look and feel (which personally I hate). The DSLRs are really a very different look, and don't like motion in the frame, especially if you are hand holding. But see for yourself. It's doabale. Just get everything as closely matched prior to the shooting. Maybe a day getting the two cameras together with a color chart and some lighting, and see what you end up with. That might take some of the pressure off. The pinkness in the video was the lights of the stage. We decided to leave them.
BEFORE YOU GO TO THE VIDEO LINK; there is a long introduction that my client likes to do for the songs, as they are on his web site as sort of a journal of his life, so let it load, and go to 1:21 in to see the beginning of the actual song. If you happen to wonder, we left the green screen black because of the black background in the theater. It seemed the simple thing to do, and our budget is very low.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJRfr_L8NUg&feature=player_embedded
My experience was that the HMC 150 was by far the best look to the shot, with the least color matching to do. The 7D was hard to deal with, but mainly in that we were trying for one camera that was giving the handheld look and feel (which personally I hate). The DSLRs are really a very different look, and don't like motion in the frame, especially if you are hand holding. But see for yourself. It's doabale. Just get everything as closely matched prior to the shooting. Maybe a day getting the two cameras together with a color chart and some lighting, and see what you end up with. That might take some of the pressure off. The pinkness in the video was the lights of the stage. We decided to leave them.
BEFORE YOU GO TO THE VIDEO LINK; there is a long introduction that my client likes to do for the songs, as they are on his web site as sort of a journal of his life, so let it load, and go to 1:21 in to see the beginning of the actual song. If you happen to wonder, we left the green screen black because of the black background in the theater. It seemed the simple thing to do, and our budget is very low.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJRfr_L8NUg&feature=player_embedded
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8string
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Yes, they have done quite well with it. Maybe GM will pick it up for a commercial. I have wondered why they don't usually work with a bass player. But hey, none of these guys have ever needed a day job...they have been pro singer/songwriters all their lives...so they are obviously doing something right...(G)
Interesting film, and a useful comparison - thanks for sharing. I'm astonished that the JVC (locked-off centre three-shot) should show so much moire - is that from the camera sensor or an artefact introduced in the scaling somewhere?
You've done a great job matching the 7D and 150 footage, I think - as usual, with no point of reference to judge depth-of-field against, they look remarkably similar. There's no obvious resolution shift on the cut between the two - neither is noticeably sharper or softer than the other, I think. The 7D's even coping with the checked shirt, which is a surprise.
You've done a great job matching the 7D and 150 footage, I think - as usual, with no point of reference to judge depth-of-field against, they look remarkably similar. There's no obvious resolution shift on the cut between the two - neither is noticeably sharper or softer than the other, I think. The 7D's even coping with the checked shirt, which is a surprise.
8string
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Not sure why the JVC moire'd more.I would guess it was the sensor, but the moire seems to show up in the small version. I can't see it in FCP.
it did teach me to do a better job controlling clothing for our next shoot! My next release from this shoot I've de-saturated the colors, and it came out even better for matching all three. And working with a black background did really make a difference for holding DOF together.
it did teach me to do a better job controlling clothing for our next shoot! My next release from this shoot I've de-saturated the colors, and it came out even better for matching all three. And working with a black background did really make a difference for holding DOF together.
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Bassman2003
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I have shot a lot with these two and the trick is to bend the EX-1 in-camera to match the HMC-150. You can get them to be quite close which really improves the look of the Sony!