how do you go about telling your clients...

RebelD

RebelD

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So I have come across a few problems with my DVX. I just started doing weddings and getting a lot of calls for future upcoming projects music videos, commercials but it seems as though everyone needs or wants they're projects in HD. I really love my DVX and I don't want to switch it up. But is it about time? and how can I compete with others who can offer HD at such a low price?
 
mite be time to change. hd is the future. i got my dvx in december but i live in a SD world (jamaica) even though alot of things are shot on HD we only boradcast SD. So i;m fine. I plan to get my HMC next year hopefully july...i will still keep my dvx cuz i do shooting jobs alone 2 that require handing over tapes. With my hmc i'd have to transfer(possibly transcode) footage and put it to tape which is time which is $$. So i'll have both...best of both worlds and then get a gh1 sometime down the road after that.
 
Yeah totally buy Instant HD and your set... only you should start shooting letterbox and squeeze mode at 24p for best results in that workflow ive found...
 
I'd say it's worth the switch. A couple of gigs will make you the money back, plus you'll get money from selling your DVX. The HVX is a great step up from the DVX, and still offers so much of the same features. I regret nothing. My HVX has made me TONS. E-Series p2 cards are cheap too. I'd find a user on here selling a used one.. usually going for about $3,000 and comes with some cards and other accessories. I would recommend instant HD only as a last resort, but that's just my opinion.
 
Rent it & bill it into the job.

My system is more than capable of editing & outputting to blue ray (put the burner in last year).

Rent the HVX & accessories or the XH-A1 & away you go. I'm in Canada & the cost is around $200.00 a weekend.

I have clients inquire about HD all the time & when I confirm that they have the equipment to actually view true HD, I rent the gear & give it to them.

Can't really justify the purchase of the camera just yet as most of my clients are ok with SD.


Steve

p.s.

I love the HVX
 
I agree with Steve, the majority of gigs that I do are in SD still. If I need HD I rent HD or I find a friend of a friend to borrow a camera or something in exchange for some help filming or whatever.

If all your jobs require it, then go for it. If not then why bother. My whole gripe with switching to HD is that the technology is still changing and until they come out with one format then I will upgrade.
 
if you are making money out of it you should be making more bucks so go for the upgrade!
but don't forget you will need a faster computer (blue ray burner/player too) which will cost probably more then the HVX.

don't know how much your clients know about formatt but I would say they will pay extra $$$ because of the word HD only.
so maybe you can just stick an HD sticker on your DVX and tell them it's HD (Hello Dvx:))
 
Dude no one actually knows what hd is because they all watch dvds on their 1080p tv's anyway. Just shoot squeeze 16:9 and make them a 16:9 dvd. You can even upload stuff in hd on vimeo or youtube. People just like those 2 stupid letters, they don't even know what it means. SD will live on another day, and I hope a lot longer than that in my case.
 
I completely agree. But they can't expect anything you shoot to look like dark knight on blu-ray. These same people watch sd mtv cable on their 1080p tv. I get asked if my camera is HD all the time. Shoot widescreen and some progressive format like 30p of 24p or pa. I think 480p is better than 1080i, atleast for a more cinematic feel. 720p wins though, sadly, unless once again if it fits the project it fits.
 
JFEditorIV said:
On the other hand, it is quite annoying that people would choose a handheld single sensor cmos consumer camera they can buy at best buy over a dvx, just because it is "HD." But if the request is coming from somebody that knows what's going on, then respect their request.
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Why not, if that handheld single sensor cmos consumer camera shoots a better video than the DVX?
 
Literally EVERYONE I know thinks that just because you have a widescreen tv, its HD. Then if the TV says HD, it MUST be displayed in HD. It took them 2 years to realize that (in New York with Time Warner Cable) you have to the 700+ channels (702 for CBS HD, 02 for CBS SD, for example) to actually have the box switch to outputting a true HD signal, either 720p or 1080i. The point is, only my keen and trained eye was able to spot the difference until I was able to point out the differences in the image.
 
renegadewill said:
I completely agree. But they can't expect anything you shoot to look like dark knight on blu-ray. These same people watch sd mtv cable on their 1080p tv. I get asked if my camera is HD all the time. Shoot widescreen and some progressive format like 30p of 24p or pa. I think 480p is better than 1080i, atleast for a more cinematic feel. 720p wins though, sadly, unless once again if it fits the project it fits.
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that's because your footage always look amazing:thumbsup:
sharp and clear. I even remember asking you if you up-convert it to HD
so I guess it isn't the camera at the end. it's the person who uses it
I've seen bad footage shot with the Red and HVX so I simply never cared about upgrading yet.
 
Cranky said:
Why not, if that handheld single sensor cmos consumer camera shoots a better video than the DVX?
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it doesn't. the colours aren't there, it's not progressive and the images look flat, weak light sensitivity and lacks manual controls, not to mention audio...

more over, if you are streaming online not everyone has a computer and an internet connection capable of viewing HD flawlessly.
 
JCal11379 said:
Literally EVERYONE I know thinks that just because you have a widescreen tv, its HD. Then if the TV says HD, it MUST be displayed in HD. It took them 2 years to realize that (in New York with Time Warner Cable) you have to the 700+ channels (702 for CBS HD, 02 for CBS SD, for example) to actually have the box switch to outputting a true HD signal, either 720p or 1080i. The point is, only my keen and trained eye was able to spot the difference until I was able to point out the differences in the image.
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I used to have a roommate who would watch my Sopranos DVD's (all stretched) without turning on the squeeze mode on my TV. She would go on for episodes without noticing that the images are distorted! LOL!!
 
chromeboy007 said:
it doesn't. the colours aren't there, it's not progressive and the images look flat, weak light sensitivity and lacks manual controls, not to mention audio...
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I don't know what you are talking about. The HVxx, for example, has colors and has progressive. Cinemode indeed look flat, but there are other modes. Manual controls suck and sensitivity is so-so compared to say the HMC150, but image taken by itself in good lightning is very good. And it is HD, which DVX is not and will never be. DVX is not even a true widescreen camcorder. My 3-year old Elura 100 that I bought for $300 is a native widescreen cam, shame on Panasonic for not thinking the DVX through. Europe is using widescreen standard def for at least 10 years, maybe more, but Panasonic did not care.

chromeboy007 said:
more over, if you are streaming online not everyone has a computer and an internet connection capable of viewing HD flawlessly.
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Are we talking about computers or about camcorders?
 
I believe chromeboy was refering to your statement about the single chip cmos consumer HD cams...not the HVX.
 
dude you were comparing the dvx to a single censor cmos consumer, not the hvx.

but yeah native 16:9 would've been nice for the dvx
 
chromeboy007 said:
I used to have a roommate who would watch my Sopranos DVD's (all stretched) without turning on the squeeze mode on my TV. She would go on for episodes without noticing that the images are distorted! LOL!!
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That pisses me off sooooo much. I cannot stand watching something out of its native aspect ratio! :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
 
I love how everyone that has switched to hd lcd's not only doesn't see that the image is stretched, but they think it looks better and they don't even miss the perfect contrast of a crt tv. That's why I am pumped about led, no burn in, perfect contrast, and even way better motion. LED is the way to go for me.
 
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