Hostel II

MikeQuill

MikeQuill

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I saw Hostel II tonight (Im in Australia at the moment, is it out in the States yet?). I thought it was a great sequel. The lead girls are real hot as expected and this time we we get to hang out with 2 of the guys who pay to kill people. This latter element was a great place to take the story IMO.

However, the ending was waaaaay too abrupt. I felt really cheated. It must be less than 1 hour 30 minutes. I was really hoping it kept going for another hour.

Mike
 
I felt cheat with this film this time. I wanted more and I got less. the story was THIN and well I like some parts but I wanted more..
 
I loved Hostel, so I was curious about Hostel II. I admit, I'm also somewhat apprehensive, as I fear disappointment. It's hard to have as big an impact with a sequel in a horror, because the premise is already known to you.

I had the same issues with Saw vs Saw 2. I loved Saw - I thought the premise was very strong and original, and I liked the movie overall. I just HATED Saw 2 - it was total trash. Not only was the premise already known, but it was such a bad, bad idea to show the villain clearly (Jigsaw) - it totally took away the mystique and the feeling of danger, plus the situation I didn't care about - bunch of people need to get out of a building... BFD.

Now, with Hostel II, it's at least the same director - and I don't care what anyone says, Eli Roth is a talented filmmaker - so hopefully, he thought about the huge challenge of a sequel... I'm not saying every sequel sucks (f.ex. the Aliens sequel was a good one to the original Alien, though the rest of the sequels in that series sucked donkey balls), but man, it's a challenge. Of course, if the director is only interested in cashing in on the original, then it's sad, but I don't get that feeling about Eli Roth.

Anyhow, I'm definitely gonna see Hostel II. I'm very curious how ER dealt with the challenge.
 
i dunno man I like eli roth but hes had everything handed to him. hes LOADED FRAT GUY making frat guy films from frat guy perspectives even the females talk like frat guys. He has arrogance and ranches before he was a director so he kinda always been rich and just eli roth so Im not sure about him... I thik he plot was thin and even his action scenes sucked.

so I was sad, to see this failure film.
 
spidey said:
i dunno man I like eli roth but hes had everything handed to him. hes LOADED FRAT GUY making frat guy films from frat guy perspectives even the females talk like frat guys. He has arrogance and ranches before he was a director so he kinda always been rich and just eli roth so Im not sure about him... I thik he plot was thin and even his action scenes sucked.

so I was sad, to see this failure film.
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I dunno about that. His parents are not in the film business as far as I know... and believe me, if you've been around the business, the amount of nepotism is just insane, so the fact that he's not coming into this from the family already counts for a lot in my book. He worked as an assistant to David Lynch, so he made his contacts that way - he approached people. Like he got Badalamenti to some of the music for Cabin Fever. He came up with the story for Cabin Fever, and co-wrote the script. He wrote Hostel. If you can come up with stories like that, and you can actually write them - wow, man, I don't call that having things "handed to you". How many folks come up with stuff like that? I say he earned it. His directing is pretty solid too - he's pretty involved, it's not like he only writes and hands the directing over to the DP as many do. So, I guess I'm not really sure what you're getting at. That he hasn't had to starve, but his family is comfortable? I guess that's true, but I know a ton of very rich frat boys who didn't accomplish didly squat. YMMV.
 
I hate Eli Roth. He's such a joke. Spidey, your on the money with his whole rich-boy frat persona. He has no style and no class, and as a result, gets no respect from people who really understand the medium. Honestly, I think Tarantino has lost his touch, and backing Eli Roth's work is a perfect example of how. "It ain't over till its over", so I'm still going to see the sequel dispite my feelings about it's predicessor. Nobody can say that I dont have an open mind, but I dont expect much more than trash from the guy.
 
I dont find him to have the "loaded frat guy" persona, based on the interviews Ive watched and read of him. He sems like a funny/fun guy who is really excited about being in the position to make horror films. And based on what he says, it seems that he is extremely dedicated to making his films. He's definitely living the good life.
 
Yeah, I don't get the rich guy frat persona vibe from him at all... of course, I'm basing this on interviews and 'the making of' footage... I've never met him personally. Maybe he's an asshole/frat boy in person, but I wouldn't know that.

And I don't agree that he has no style. Based on Cabin Fever and Hostel, I don't know how anyone can say he has no style, or that his stuff is "trash". I mean, it may not be a subgenre you like (very violent horror), but you can't say he has no skillz. I guess I just don't get then whole hatin' on Roth bidness.

Then again, I've long since given up trying to convince people of the "worth" or "lack of worth" of any artist or their work - there was a thread somewhere on dvxuser, where the request was to list films you'd rather barf than watch again. It was a 30+ long thread. Man, the kinds of movies that got hated on were just mindboggling - I guess it really is different strokes for different folks.
 
I dunno, I enjoyed the original Saw as a film, but won't bother with the rest of them (No. 2 was bad enough). And I don't really have any inclination to see either of the Hostel movies either.

Why the sudden popularity of these torture-porn movies?
 
I always just figured it was the "in" new horror genre.

1980's = Slasher horror
1990's = Serial Killer horror
2000's = Torture horror

I'm not into the torture trend much, it doesn't bug me, just seems like it's going more for shock value than a decent film. But it's the current trend I suppose.

Give it a couple more years and it'll have completely played out and we can move on to the next big fad horror genre.
 
OldCorpse said:
I dunno about that. His parents are not in the film business as far as I know... and believe me, if you've been around the business, the amount of nepotism is just insane, so the fact that he's not coming into this from the family already counts for a lot in my book. He worked as an assistant to David Lynch, so he made his contacts that way - he approached people. Like he got Badalamenti to some of the music for Cabin Fever. He came up with the story for Cabin Fever, and co-wrote the script. He wrote Hostel. If you can come up with stories like that, and you can actually write them - wow, man, I don't call that having things "handed to you". How many folks come up with stuff like that? I say he earned it. His directing is pretty solid too - he's pretty involved, it's not like he only writes and hands the directing over to the DP as many do. So, I guess I'm not really sure what you're getting at. That he hasn't had to starve, but his family is comfortable? I guess that's true, but I know a ton of very rich frat boys who didn't accomplish didly squat. YMMV.
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No im saying he already had money not from movies but from something else so his investors, who I know, gave him enought to make cabin fever. so he never really had to go to school for film hes basically a frat guy, and i know alot, who said i think film will be a cool way to make money
 
I'm a hardcore horror fan and a lot of my favourites from the genre aren't especially fantastic films, but I've seen his work through a critical eye and through one adept to horror films. I really can't see the man's importance in the industry. Torture films are bottom of the barrel and I'd like to say that there was at least some nice effects in HostelI but I cant get past that terrible eyeball effect.
 
Are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me?

I have not seen Hostel II and don't plan on it. I saw Hostel and it's a piece of garbage. There's no plot, no character development, not even good writing. Just scenes of grotesque torture.

Congratulations Eli, you've made a snuff film. Something to really be proud of.

Now I like horror films, good horror films. 28 Days later was great, good story, great characters, well shot. 28 Weeks later, not quite as good, but still scared the crap out of me.

cheers,

JP
 
I'd like to see what Horse has to say about this. I know of no greater connoisseur of horror movies than Horse.
 
Blaine said:
I'd like to see what Horse has to say about this. I know of no greater connoisseur of horror movies than Horse.
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I really agree with you on Hostel, Blaine. I was pretty disappointed in it. I went in expecting nothing more than over the top, gratuitous gore. I didn't even get that. The gore was nothing we haven't seen a dozen times by Tom Savini. It became the trendy movie to talk about as being overly violent. It really wasn't.

The movie took way too long to get going. I had no interest in watching these dudes travel and hang out at clubs. I didn't really like the characters. They aren't guys who I would hang out with. Get to the horror already.

Though, I haven't really liked the movies he's directed, I think Eli Roth is a guy I could have a beer with and talk horror. He really seems like a fan of the genre and he's living the dream. We should all be so lucky.
 
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