Honestly how? I Dont Get It.

Re: Honestly how? I Dont Get It.

[quote author=skettalee link=board=Vegas;num=1084805898;start=15#18 date=05/19/04 at 05:07:52]

Final Cut Pro and Premiere Pro are both 10 times more powerful than vegas. You can have that. I would say that it is almost a proven fact!
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Ten times more powerful? A "proven fact"? Preposterous. Ridiculous. Absurd.

You start naming things that they can do that Vegas can't, and do it at a 10:1 ratio. Hell, do it at a 2:1 ratio. A 1.5:1 ratio, even. Show me how they don't even break even.

You haven't even done that with Avid. Like I said, even if I grant you media management, tell me something Avid can do that Vegas can't. Otherwise, you really are just a guy sitting at a typewriter refusing to try Word because it's not what you're used to. And that's fine -- your affinity for Avid doesn't need to end -- but don't blame it on Vegas. It's your own set-in-stone attitude which is responsible there.

By this time, it's pretty clear that all you're really after is confirmation of Vegas's inferiority . . .

It extra minutes everytime you think of something new you want to import. Can you tell me that every or even half of your projects, you know exactly what you are gonna use the whole way through with no improvision? I dont think so.

Why would it take extra minutes? Just put in your project folder. Click. Click. Click. Done. That's about 14 seconds, tops, unless you're suffering from biblical-level carpal tunnel syndrome. And that's only if you're so obsessive that you need to know exactly where every little thing is -- which is really only a factor if you're switching hard drives between computers and need to take the project files with you. Otherwise, who cares where it sits in your computer?

So, if you want to convince us that you really do "want" to be convinced re: Vegas, you're going to have to do better and start naming real editing power that Avid (and Final Cut and Premiere) has and Vegas doesn't.

Otherwise, dude, you're just trolling.
 
Re: Honestly how? I Dont Get It.

[quote author=skettalee link=board=Vegas;num=1084805898;start=15#19 date=05/19/04 at 05:25:13]
Im just trying to buy people on some avid. I admit though that the company is suckin ass by letting these companies like Adobe and Sony come out with something for so much cheaper that almost equals Avids products for around 500 more. Screw them for that.[/quote]

That's not what you said. You said:

BUT PLEASE. Im really trying to rab you guys up to try to get me to understand. Cause once you guys show me the way. I might be working in Vegas even more. So help me out!

So I guess this was a just a trolling trip after all. Have fun with your Smith-Corona, I guess.
 
Re: Honestly how? I Dont Get It.

[quote author=skettalee link=board=Vegas;num=1084805898;start=15#17 date=05/19/04 at 05:05:46]You dont understand, its not an extra 2 minutes at start. It extra minutes everytime you think of something new you want to import. [/quote]

First of all, there's an explorer tab in Vegas. You can copy files directly from there into your project directory if you want. You can also "drag" files there, so instead of dragging a file into the timeline in Avid you'd drag the file into the explorer part of Vegas into the project directory, then double click that file. 2 minutes extra to do that? Maybe 2 seconds.

Hehe, this is now a cool post. I turned a little "im pissed" into a great debate.

No, you've turned it into a good troll thread. There is no debate, it doesn't even seem like you've read anyone elses messages. And now you're making statements like "10 times better than Vegas" and "proven fact".

If Avid is what does it for you, great, have at it! Everyone has different preferences and likes. But to basically say Vegas is for newbs is, well, trolling. If you want to debate lets discuss the differences and why we like them better, but making statements like that does nothing to help the "great debate".
 
Re: Honestly how? I Dont Get It.

[quote author=Party_Pooper link=board=Vegas;num=1084805898;start=15#15 date=05/18/04 at 21:56:40]I've been using Avid dv.  Before that it was premiere.  Just this week i got around to seriously playing around with Vegas.  Besides xpress pro with a mojo, it's probably the best NLE for  PC.  I ttook a while to get used to the interface as everyone else has pointed out.  But damn, you can do so much with it!  The velocity stuff and the 24p editing alone make it better than Avid DV.  [/quote]

It is true -- $3200 for Avid & Mojo (without which you have a crippled NLE) v. $500 for Vegas + DVD -- you would hope a $2700 difference would give you more than just improved media management . . .
 
Re: Honestly how? I Dont Get It.

Sony is trying to make the price difference a little less noticeable by getting rid of the $500 Vegas+DVD deals out there, but even then, Avid is way more expensive.

But the enthusiasm isn't just about the price. Have you looked at the hardware requirements or how effeciently Vegas runs compaired to Avid? And we could go on and on...

However, skettalee, I think you're acting a bit like those kids editing skateboard videos. You're say "my NLE is the best, nah, nah." The NLE is the tool. It's what you do with the tool that counts. And no, Avid Pro + Mojo is not even close to 10 times better than Vegas + DVD. Name even one feature that's 10 times better and you still wouldn't be close. But if you like that NLE the best, go for it! It sounds like a decent tool and one that you enjoy using.
 
Re: Honestly how? I Dont Get It.

You guys are acting so up tight. I began by saying I know how to use it and I like it in its ways. And saying its just me working with it, it feels like suchs a kids program. In other words, if someone asked how to edit a dvd and they were a kid with home footage, I would say use Vegas Video. If someone was really into video and wanted to excel in it and get into the business full time, then I would say, go with Avid.

Because yes in the real world out here in big studios. People are using Avid, not Vegas. And noone in movies and stuff will switch to Vegas.

The thing is, im not preferrably talking about Vegas against Avid Xpress. I mean Avid as a whole. There way, there tools. I know most of you dont have access to any bit of software you want but we work with deals where we get any software we say we need. And Avid is the tool of the trade. Now I can go on to bigger and better things than Avid that I would take from what Grinner says. But I never used them myself.
 
Re: Honestly how? I Dont Get It.

Just calm down. I know Vegas is good. Im just trying to turn you guys to avid. Cause im almost sure if you guys would use it, you would probably like Avid's Products much more. I use them both and avid is way more stable. Vegas crashes, not often but it does..,

This is all in good fun, lets all hold hands now and sing a song.... Someone start the song...
 
Re: Honestly how? I Dont Get It.

Skettalee

Dude. Bro. First you come in here asking for enlightenment on Vegas and then it turns into "Heh heh I was just trying to get people into Avid". Stop trolling. You should know better. This is a Vegas thread for technical help; if you want to talk about it goto the Cafe.

There's no need to come across as more of a professional than you really are; there are tons of working pros in here that could really care less. It comes down to what you want to use. What? Are you getting a commission from Avid or something?

Youre the big boy woth the big toy and we applaud you. Some people dig Vegas, some Avid, some FC and some Premiere. Period.

Im locking this as you have really just wasted everyones time.
 
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