Hollywood ... as in, the end of ....

Im one of the few humans that can predict trends. I haven't been to the movies for 20 years, except when I was dating my soon to be wife in Thailand, and theaters are a blast usually located on the top floor of these mega malls. I didnt care what movie was playing I went because it's the established courtship ritual. I also, got rid of direct TV 7 years ago. I used i primarily as a sleeping aid, turning it on at the end of a hard days work and fell asleep on the couch.

I've wondered about modern man and women's ability to take in absurd amounts of unreality and fantasy on a daily basis and not end up with some form of mental illness. The farther we remove ourselves from reality the more our society suffers different forms of mental illness.

I do however watch documentaries, and rarely get tired of a good documentary. Most of my friends have movie fantasy overload. Personally, Ive never understood why people read fiction. There is so much to learn about and participate in reality.

The film industry is dying, just like the recording industry, and most recently main stream news. Nothing lasts forever. A healthy mind can only take so much garbage in, in one lifetime.

I've heard Hollywood is going on strike over some political figure...... good I hope they do! Will be the nail in the coffin.

As a matter of concern, Oliver Stone says the CIA has taken over Hollywood. We've been manipulated by the CIA and NSA propaganda for too long in film and entertainment. Most intelligent people know this and thus tune out films and news, and all other forms of entertainment. Good luck with the transition guys.
 
Michael Thames said:
I've wondered about modern man and women's ability to take in absurd amounts of unreality and fantasy on a daily basis and not end up with some form of mental illness. The farther we remove ourselves from reality the more our society suffers different forms of mental illness.

I do however watch documentaries, and rarely get tired of a good documentary. Most of my friends have movie fantasy overload. Personally, Ive never understood why people read fiction. There is so much to learn about and participate in reality.
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I think this is a great question and worth starting a thread about in Cafe DVX, so that we don't hijack this thread.

Is art valuable?
Why do we go after fiction?
Is it all escapism? Is there any realistic aspect to movies that can help us?
Or are documentaries the only healthy movie to watch?

A friend of mine is like you, saying that he doesn't like movies because they're fake. However he loves watching sports. I feel that it's as worthwhile to watch a movie as a game, but it might take some time to articulate.
 
combatentropy said:
I think this is a great question and worth starting a thread about in Cafe DVX, so that we don't hijack this thread.

Is art valuable?
Why do we go after fiction?
Is it all escapism? Is there any realistic aspect to movies that can help us?
Or are documentaries the only healthy movie to watch?

A friend of mine is like you, saying that he doesn't like movies because they're fake. However he loves watching sports. I feel that it's as worthwhile to watch a movie as a game, but it might take some time to articulate.
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This topic is at the forefront of my awareness in life..... its an Orwellean nightmare. People are having a very hard time discerning fiction from reality..... and it's getting worse. I've always felt my intelligence assaulted watching these mindless, manipulative, brain dead hollywood films. Fiction if you think about has been introduced to humans in a relatively short time, it's not a normal thing. Neither is non-stop 24/7 infotainment, somethings gotta give. Yea, get something going in the Cafe!
 
puredrifting said:
While I generally agree with premise, at least some of it is misinformed by Bilton's own lack of knowledge about the business and from the "entrenched interests" he spoke with. I recently became a member of a union, I went to an orientation and honestly, the whole thing did seem myopic and sheltered from reality. All of the people running this particular union who were there at the orientation are ancient white guys who definitely are good at their craft and at politics, but seemed somewhat mired in the past and seemed to think, "this is how production is done", rather than "this is what production is evolving to".
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I reckon there is a TONNE of bloat in the typical Hollywood production, and the future is not crews of hundreds of people but shoots of just a dozen or two dozen crew people instead.

Instead of one $100 million dollar film, have twenty $5 million films!
 
combatentropy said:
In some kind of weird parallel, this filmmaking forum has managed to come up with just a dozen comments for this story, while the computer-programmer forum is much more engaging, with over 450 comments, many of which are high quality: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13521699 :cheesy:
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Yup, it was a really great discussion over there.

On a related point, they had a request for submission for "Hollywood 2.0":

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3491542

HOLLYWOOD 2.0

New celebrities don’t get discovered by talent agents, they get discovered directly by their fans on YouTube.
In 2014, movies had their worst summer since 1997. Just like future celebrities are unlikely to get their start with talent agencies, future content consumers will watch content online instead of at the theater, and probably in very different ways.

Celebrities now have direct relationships with their fans. They can also distribute content in new ways.

There are almost certainly huge new businesses that will get built as part of this shift.
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http://www.ycombinator.com/rfs/
 
Michael Thames said:
Im one of the few humans that can predict trends.
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Excellent! If you could please predict 10 or so upcoming trends so I can invest accordingly. I need to improve my investments.


Michael Thames said:
As a matter of concern, Oliver Stone says the CIA has taken over Hollywood. We've been manipulated by the CIA and NSA propaganda for too long in film and entertainment. Most intelligent people know this and thus tune out films and news, and all other forms of entertainment. Good luck with the transition guys.
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While I have deep respect for Oliver Stone's views (cough), this is a common misunderstanding. Those really in the know, know that everything is controlled by an organization in Springfield. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD3FN0Ah4RE
 
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The Walt Disney Company announced today that it's taking over a streaming service and will stream ESPN and Disney shows itself.

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/walt-disney-company-acquire-majority-ownership-bamtech/

By the way, Disney not only owns 80% of ESPN but also Marvel and Star Wars. "Disney will end its distribution agreement with Netflix for subscription streaming of new releases, beginning with the 2019 calendar year theatrical slate."
 
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Disney announced its quarterlies today.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/disney-slated-report-earnings-bell-193408573.html
The broader media and networks segment also reported operating income that missed Wall Street projections.

Here's what Disney reported as operating income for each segment, compared with analysts' expectations, according to StreetAccount consensus estimates:

Media and networks: $1.84 billion vs. $1.99 billion expected
Parks and resorts: $1.17 billion vs. $1.09 billion expected
Studio: $639 million vs. $636.6 million expected
Consumer and interactive: $362 million vs. $394.6 million expected
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Studio numbers performance vs. expectation is difficult to hide due to the well known box office data, so that part can only be judged along the trends. The $150M drop in TV revenues is huge though.

PS. Its streaming will create further problems for the cable companies, as they will be now competing against themselves.
 
Netflix just signed Shonda Rhymes to a big bucks contract. She was going to leave ABC/Disney regardless but this makes sense for a streamer to sign someone who can give them a lot of hours, aka a popular TV series, for a reasonable price.
 
puredrifting said:
Shonda's not the only one...
http://www.businessinsider.com/jerr...-comedians-in-cars-getting-coffee-deal-2017-1
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To me, Seinfeld is a "main event" type. "Comedians in cars" isn't that big a ratings grabber but his standup shows will be heavily promoted. Dave Chappelle got something in the $60M range for his three standup specials, so Sein is in the same ballpark.

Meanwhile, a news item that has been making rounds this morning -

Apple is reportedly preparing a $1 billion “war chest” which it will spend on acquiring or producing original content over the next year. That sum is around half of what HBO spent on production last year. The jewel in HBO’s crown is Game of Thrones, which it has aired since 2011. Apple SVP Eddy Cue is reportedly aiming for Apple to offer up to ten new shows, which could rival Game of Thrones in scope...
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https://www.cultofmac.com/497846/apple-will-throw-1-billion-original-programming-next-year/
 
With the easy of digital technology, everybody and their dogs will jump in into the content production market. It happened first at the low end where everybody with a camera and a computer became a content creator. Now it's happening in the high end.
 
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