HMC150 questions answered...

Panasonic would say so, and they have some marketing brochures to tell you why. But I used a Sandisk Extreme III 2GB, a SanDisk Extreme III 4GB, and a Kingston 8GB, and they all performed fine.
 
yoyohat said:
I can get them to show up in Pinnacle Studio 12 but they are too choppy to even play on my computer.
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Choppy is normally a sign of PC issues. How much dedicated memory on the video card and also what card is it? Pinnacle particularily "likes" ATI cards and not friendly with Nvidia. When you step over to the Avid side of Pinnacle then the reverse typically holds true.

Also, if running M$ Windows XP/Pro you must have at least 2Gb mem and Vista minimum of 4Gb to run smoothly. Even our dual xeon machines when running AVC-HD we had to have at least 2Gb to make it work smooth. Our Avid runs smooth but we couldn't get it to see the AVC-HD and since our version is being phased out I suspect the AVC-HD won't be added. However, Edius Broadcast will and you can download a free 30 day trial version and Edius for some reason doesn't require all kinds of computing power. We ran DVCProHD native in Edius on an old AMD Athlon machine with sloooooow IDE drives and an "on board" video card. Amazing!

Also, what are the speeds of your HDD's? Over time we have had to convert ALL our HDD's to 7200rpm and OS drives to 10000rpm for the greatest success.
 
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All the Panasonic literature simply specifies a class 4 or above SD card. I bought 16Gb Transcend Class 6 cards just to make sure I wouldn't ever have any issues

Sure Panasonic wants to sell you their cards, but they are not as heavy handed about it as some "other" companies who make you use proprietary cards. Oh wait a minute, that's what P2 was.... :Drogar-Love(DBG):
 
shrigg said:
Wow sounds noisy!
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Actually not noisy at all. Our 10Krpm drives are quietier than the 7200rpm drives. Even the 15000rpm SCSI are pretty quiet. The noisy part are the fans to remove the heat off 5 drives and two core two duo processors :o( And even they are not too bad on the XW8200's. The big dual xeon, dual core, hyperthread ATI 1950XTR 512mb card and 4gb ram we built, now that's noisy. Wanna buy it? Has 4 NOISY fans in it. Great show piece with 6 screaming fast RAID HDD's and a 15Krpm SCSI OS. For sale . . cheap (replaced with a dual quad core xeon Mac)
 
Yeah the Mac Pro is what I want but can't afford it after the HMC purchase with all its associated goodies: 5800mah battereies, dedicated battery charger, 16 Gb SD cards, porta brace bag, Chrosziel mattebox, 4x4 filters, the list goes on
 
Barry_Green said:
It's not early at all to be critical of them for adopting an attitude of supporting only footage from their own parent company's products. It's a simple thing for them to clarify: they can say "we, as an NLE, will support all officially licensed AVC-HD products" or they can say "we, as an NLE, are supporting footage from our parent company's products, and everyone else is on a "we'll see" basis." So far, they've taken the second line, not the first. And because of that, I think said criticism is entirely justified.
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I see your point, but how many other NLEs currently support all recording modes from all AVCHD cameras? Obviously Sony is in a better position to support their own products than someone else's, and if Panasonic had an NLE we could probably expect the same. So the question is whether Sony will get their act together for AVCHD editing as quickly as other NLE companies, or not.
 
kurtmo said:
Can you edit (not just playback) the 60p clips? i was able to get the 24p and 30p clips to work in VegasPro.
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yes I can edit them in MS9P. The frame grab shows the 59.97 progressive clip. The playback is choppy but you can reduce the preview rez to make it a bit faster. The machine is doing some serious math to get the clip to play. This is our work machine and its not very fast (XP P4 1GB DDR2).

My machine at home is a XP Quad Core with 4GB of DDR3 and a GeForce9600GT 1GB and I can play back AVCHD at full 30fps in TMPGENC.

Just got an email from Sony stating Vegas Pro 8.1 update will be comming out at the end of the month. Since they can get AVC to work in their under $100 video studio program, there is no reason they cant get it to work for the people who shelled out $550 for pro 8.

And if not, I am content with converting AVC to MPEG2 until the NLEs catch up (in particular PPro CS3)
 
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Archiving HMC150 footage

Archiving HMC150 footage

Barry,

New HMC150 question: Do you know if it is possible to split up the files in the PRIVATE folder for archiving purposess? I have 16Gb cards, and I want to archive each card to 4 DVD-R's as a workflow.

What file structure needs to stay intact? I recall people having problems working with the sample footage files after downloading, and I fear THAT IS ME trying to bring an actual job back to life a year later off DVD-R :Drogar-Dum(DBG):

I'd love to hear any other archiving ideas anyone has
 
Kevin Shaw said:
I see your point, but how many other NLEs currently support all recording modes from all AVCHD cameras? Obviously Sony is in a better position to support their own products than someone else's, and if Panasonic had an NLE we could probably expect the same. So the question is whether Sony will get their act together for AVCHD editing as quickly as other NLE companies, or not.
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I'd like to put in my request now for Mac support on this upcoming Panasonic NLE :Drogar-Love(DBG):
 
Are those the 5800mah batteries? Panasonic's accessory designations are less than memorable...

Those seem to be in the same shipping container as all the cameras, prolly on a boat somewhere between here and Japan! (I have two of them ordered along with the camera)
 
I just put the clips on my PS3 and watched them on my hdtv...... AMAZING!

Barry please post some more of your clips!!
 
shrigg said:
Barry,

New HMC150 question: Do you know if it is possible to split up the files in the PRIVATE folder for archiving purposess? I have 16Gb cards, and I want to archive each card to 4 DVD-R's as a workflow.

What file structure needs to stay intact? I recall people having problems working with the sample footage files after downloading, and I fear THAT IS ME trying to bring an actual job back to life a year later off DVD-R :Drogar-Dum(DBG):

I'd love to hear any other archiving ideas anyone has
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They're going to be introducing a software program that, as I understand it, is designed to handle splitting up, copying off, and archiving files to DVD or blu-ray or whatnot. I'm not 100% sure on that.

You could always just zip the whole thing up and have it span across multiple DVDs. :engel017:
 
I heard that the new toast does disk spanning. Anyone have any converted quicktime files. I have a powerpc here.


cheers
 
Kevin Shaw said:
I see your point, but how many other NLEs currently support all recording modes from all AVCHD cameras? Obviously Sony is in a better position to support their own products than someone else's, and if Panasonic had an NLE we could probably expect the same. So the question is whether Sony will get their act together for AVCHD editing as quickly as other NLE companies, or not.
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Oh, indeed, that IS the question.

Every other NLE supports P2 in some way, without a plugin, and the support keeps getting better. Vegas is the ONLY holdout, and it reflects a pattern.

It used to be the NLE which would be the first out of the gate to support any new formats. Sadly, that is no longer the case by any stretch.

(I say this, of course, as one who was once called the "Vegas Pitbull.")
 
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Barry_Green said:
They're going to be introducing a software program that, as I understand it, is designed to handle splitting up, copying off, and archiving files to DVD or blu-ray or whatnot. I'm not 100% sure on that.

You could always just zip the whole thing up and have it span across multiple DVDs. :engel017:
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I sure hope that they remember to make a version for the MAC users out there.... :beer:


Bob Diaz
 
Barry_Green said:
They're going to be introducing a software program that, as I understand it, is designed to handle splitting up, copying off, and archiving files to DVD or blu-ray or whatnot. I'm not 100% sure on that.

You could always just zip the whole thing up and have it span across multiple DVDs. :engel017:
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That was my initial plan using Toast 8 (Mac). I wonder how reliable spanning across multiple DVD-R's would be..... Anyone have experience with this?
 
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