I've been shooting with a pair of HMC150's for a while now and generally love the results. But I want to add a third cam, and have seen where a lot of people are now using the 60D. Is the 60D a good match with the 150? I shoot a lot of concert footage. Cannot afford an AF100, otherwise I would go that route.
HMC150 and Canon 60D--A good combination?
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I'm currently shooting a doc with an HMC150 and 60D, and it seems to be working well and mixing so far, although the project is very far from finished. But it's a good combination logisitically for run and gun, because you can just buy a bunch of good SDHC cards and use them for both, no fumbling around with lots of different media types...
Interesting. Can I prompt you to post the settings you have on each camera? I'm really struggling getting scene files that don't need lots of effort in post (which can also add more noise on the HMC).
Engage the default Cine-V on the HMC150, then lower the "detail" and "v.detail" to the minimum (-7, I think). Some people add +2 on the coring, I don't, because coring actually does destroy detail, yet, ironically, minimum "detail" doesn't destroy detail. You can also lower the pedestal a few points -- that crushes the blacks to very nicely match a Canon HDSLR.
On your Canon -- engage the default "Standard" picture file. Lower the sharpness to the minimum, take the contrast down at least two (I go all the way down), and lower the saturation by at least two (I take it down to one up from the minimum).
Do the above and you'll be in good shape. Color correct in post, and sharpen in post.
AGMedia - thanks for the post, I'll do some testing tomorrow. However .....
As you sure about that? I mean really sure ? I just did a quick test, one shot with -7/-7 and the next with 0/0 and there was quite a bit of detail difference. You might want to try setting the same test up (tripod mounted of course
). Even so, there is a massive difference in detail between the HMC and the DSLR, and this is one of the things I'm struggling with. Swapping between DSLR and HMC shots of the same subject but from a different angle is 'obvious', because the HMC footage looks so much softer.
As you sure about that? I mean really sure ? I just did a quick test, one shot with -7/-7 and the next with 0/0 and there was quite a bit of detail difference. You might want to try setting the same test up (tripod mounted of course
). Even so, there is a massive difference in detail between the HMC and the DSLR, and this is one of the things I'm struggling with. Swapping between DSLR and HMC shots of the same subject but from a different angle is 'obvious', because the HMC footage looks so much softer.Yes. Really sure. The "detail" is about the camera's edge contrast enhancement -- it's got nothing to do with resolution.
But, if you don't know who I am and want something familiar -- ask Barry Green.
Furthermore, if your NLE isn't awful (I use CS5), when you sharpen in post with intelligent settings you'll end up with sharper looking, lower noise footage. This applies to both the HMC150 and Canon HDSLR.
Oh, and if Barry Green and I aren't reassuring enough, go check out Philip Bloom's tutorials in that "Vimeo School" thing. I think he called in-camera edge contrast processing "the devil."