MadHMC150
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I think there are better video examples to come... here is some sharp footage from a t1i that I purchased (for now) in the place of the 40. http://vimeo.com/6440342
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HMC-40 test footage
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I think there are better video examples to come... here is some sharp footage from a t1i that I purchased (for now) in the place of the 40. http://vimeo.com/6440342
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Gary Senda
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I had the opportunity to test the HMC-41 (european model) today. This is a short walkaround
http://www.vimeo.com/6445168
I've shooted without reading a single row of the user's manual.
That's a nice little camera
Gary
http://www.vimeo.com/6445168
I've shooted without reading a single row of the user's manual.
That's a nice little camera
Gary
Gary Senda
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looks pretty good but i feel this cam wont have the same "mojo" as the 150
You're right: this is a useful camera for people who need a light and fully manual camera, with a decent image.
Anyway the HMC150's image is better, but the HMC40 has more resolution.
BobDiaz
The Professor
looks pretty good but i feel this cam wont have the same "mojo" as the 150
One can increase the color saturation to give the output more of the "Panasonic look". However, it won't ever look exactly like the HMC-150.
All jokes aside, the camera does appear to generate nice images, has lots of user options, and a super low price point. The final word isn't in yet, but to me the initial information seems to point that the HMC-40 provides good performance considering the price.
I just wish there were more videos being posted... :beer:
Bob Diaz
Gary Senda
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Something was wrong with the compression settings so the image are darker and the colour much less brilliant. The original AVCHD is much better.
Now it is time to sleep in Italy, but tomorrow I can try to upload an AVCHD file on a depository
I'll be getting one on Tuesday. Any suggestions for test videos?
BobDiaz
The Professor
YES, thank you... :dankk2::dankk2::dankk2:
Low light footage at different gain settings and some idea how high the gain can be before the image noise is starting to get bad.
1080p Day time shots at different F-Stop settings. My theory is that F 4.0 --> 5.6 is the sweet point for the camera, higher numbers, F8+ should result in a drop in sharpness. (Same shot with details, just different higher F-Stops)
Bob Diaz
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Be sure to set it on a tripod and shoot the lowlight shots at different gain and shutter settings. Also it might be a good idea to do it indoors so you can control the light from extreme dark to lit artificially to daylight through a window. Be sure to put some high contrast items in the shot.
Set it to different matrix settings and the different gamma modes. Maybe with some adjustments we can get this thing to kinda give that panny mojo.
Set it to different matrix settings and the different gamma modes. Maybe with some adjustments we can get this thing to kinda give that panny mojo.
It is a consumer camcorder with better controls than modern consumer camcorders have. But at $2,000 nothing much to complain about.
BobDiaz
The Professor
Here's a link to a PDF resolution chart.
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/respat/EIA1956.pdf
You can download it and print it out. I'm guessing that the camera should be reasonably sharp, but as you go beyond F8+, the resolution should drop. This chart should allow you to test that and get a reasonable estimate at what point does the F-Stop go too high and we loose resolution.
It might be fun to try this test at 1080p and 720p.
Bob Diaz
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/respat/EIA1956.pdf
You can download it and print it out. I'm guessing that the camera should be reasonably sharp, but as you go beyond F8+, the resolution should drop. This chart should allow you to test that and get a reasonable estimate at what point does the F-Stop go too high and we loose resolution.
It might be fun to try this test at 1080p and 720p.
Bob Diaz
BobDiaz
The Professor
I got to thinking about your comment that the HMC-40 is a "consumer camera". This is one of those things that is subject to perspective.
Even if it has the exact same image sensor as the TM300; from a standpoint of image quality, we're seeing the better 3 chip consumer cameras looking closer in quality to the professional cameras. Granted, when lighting is poor, a 2/3" camera will win over any 1/4" consumer camera, but overall that also holds true for 2/3" vs. 1/3".
Also, Consumer cameras just don't have the level of control and XLR inputs like the HMC-40 has.
You can call the HMC-40 a "consumer camera" if you like, but to me it's a clear setp above that category. Oh well, what's in a name, a rose by any other name ....
That's the part I find the most amazing and interesting about the camera.
Bob Diaz
BobDiaz
The Professor
The User Guide is now on line!!!
The User Guide is now on line!!!
By the way, the User Guide is now on line!!! :thumbup:
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webap...roupId=112502&surfModel=AG-HMC40&displayTab=R
Thank you Panasonic. :dankk2:
Bob Diaz
The User Guide is now on line!!!
By the way, the User Guide is now on line!!! :thumbup:
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webap...roupId=112502&surfModel=AG-HMC40&displayTab=R
Thank you Panasonic. :dankk2:
Bob Diaz
Yep. Consumer camcorders now have pretty good sensors, but lack controls.
This is what I meant.
Sony calls the HDR-FX7 an "advanced amateur" camcorder. I said that the HMC40 is a consumer camera, because it uses the lens, sensors, touch-sensitive LCD screen, menu organization, etc. from a consumer camcorder instead of using a dedicated design. This is not bad by itself, just a matter of fact. Panasonic could at least use a larger 3.0 or 3.5 inch LCD screen to better compete with the FX7/V1, but it decided to reuse as many components from the consumer "300" family as possible. On another hand, this must have contributed to a lower $2,000 price instead of $3,200 announced earlier.
Not a word about how ND filter works.
BobDiaz
The Professor
I'm still reading through the User Guide...
As for the ND Filter, the only thing said is
It looks like the AG-MYA30G XLR Adapter will be worth the $300, without it, adjusting the volume levels through a menu will be a bit of a pain.
It looks like one can set the maximum for the auto gain setting; +12dB, +24dB, and +34dB (Through a USER Button). There does not appear to be any other choices. It will be interesting to see what the noise level for +12dB and +24dB look like.
As for INTERVAL REC:
There appear to be 2 "SCENE1 / SCENE2" files for user selection.
There's a lot more to read, but that's what I've seen so far...
Bob Diaz
As for the ND Filter, the only thing said is
OK, I'll guess that this functions through the iris setting. ???
It looks like the AG-MYA30G XLR Adapter will be worth the $300, without it, adjusting the volume levels through a menu will be a bit of a pain.
It looks like one can set the maximum for the auto gain setting; +12dB, +24dB, and +34dB (Through a USER Button). There does not appear to be any other choices. It will be interesting to see what the noise level for +12dB and +24dB look like.
As for INTERVAL REC:
There appear to be 2 "SCENE1 / SCENE2" files for user selection.
There's a lot more to read, but that's what I've seen so far...
Bob Diaz
Sorry. I used the wrong thread.
Post moved to this place.
Post moved to this place.
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shphotovideo
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Have only done some moving cars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88zNdvsDf-o (end of video). I do have some hand held footage from inside a 520HP Lotus, but it was very hard to hold the camera still.
Plan on going to the Edwards Air Force Base show on the 17th so that should be a good test.
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