HMC 150 vs HV40 for action shots - biking

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mikecazzx

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Sorry for the noob question.

Is the 150 more suitable to shooting busy frame fast action like mountain biking in the woods - vs the Canon HV40 which I hear has rolling shutter issues.

Also - does the basic lens on the 150 pass as a wide angle?

Will the 150 produce as sharp or sharper video than the Canon HV 40 and cleaner video?
 
Undoubtedly, a lot of folks here will tell you that CMOS will turn your footage to jello, but as a practical matter, I've shot quite a bit of footage with the HV20, and never had anything like a serious "jello-cam" problem, even with footage that includes lots of motion.

The HMC150 isn't likely to give you notably sharper footage, in good lighting. AVCHD compression is better, but the HMC150's CCDs are pretty low res for an HD camcorder. In low light, the HMC150 will give you a heck of a lot cleaner and sharper footage though.
 
Robert M Wright said:
Undoubtedly, a lot of folks here will tell you that CMOS will turn your footage to jello, but as a practical matter, I've shot quite a bit of footage with the HV20, and never had anything like a serious "jello-cam" problem, even with footage that includes lots of motion.

The HMC150 isn't likely to give you notably sharper footage, in good lighting. AVCHD compression is better, but the HMC150's CCDs are pretty low res for an HD camcorder. In low light, the HMC150 will give you a heck of a lot cleaner and sharper footage though.
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My main concern is panning with riders with trees and leaves in the background. I cannot test right now since it's winter here. Do you think the more than twice the cost between the two units is justified? For example, will the noobie with a decent eye tell an obvious difference? Being able to shoot as the sun is going down might be a nice ability to have for sure.
 
A bigger difference than any jello cam sort of issue, with high motion, is that HDV compression breaks up a lot easier than AVCHD.

A Canon HF-S series camcorder would be a good option to consider too - very high res CMOS imager, yielding very detailed images, and 24Mbps AVCHD recording.
 
I'd think in te woods, where you may be changing positions a lot, a smaller cam would be advantageous. I own a Canon HFS-10 as well as the HMC150 (2 of them). I will only use the Canon over the HFS-10 if I have to. The HMC is sooo good. I definately prefer the images the HMC150 produces to any cam with < 1/3" chips.

But size and portability matter too, and a cam like the HMC40 may make your life a lot easier in the woods as it is so much easier to carry, You will be much more likely to shoot with it and go on these assignments than if you had a larger cam. That's worth a lot.

I recommend the HMC40 here over the Canon because of the user interface, and the better integration of features such as XLR's, and remote controller (like those made by Bogen abd Varizoom).
 
One of the main reasons I went for the 150 (151) is because of jello problems I'd already had with CMOS cameras. Some people say it's no problem, and I'm glad for them. The jello that I saw didn't seem to bother some people as much as it bothered me, but I squirmed uncomfortably in my chair every time I saw it.
 
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