HMC-150 seems noisy

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rgaut

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Just got my 150 yesterday. Runs really smooth just like my previous DVX100a, but I just picked up a veiwsonic 22" HDTV to watch the footage. And i'm seeing a lot of noise in the picture? I'm thinking it might be the cheap $350 screen I just bought?

the interlace mode seems to show a lot less noise then when i pop it into progressive mode?

Anyone have any experience with the noise? All settings on cam are right..shutter OFF...gain off...ect.

It's strange..because it does fine in the blacks...no noise there...it's just in the solid colors at times. I'm running into the monitor with the included component cable. Haven't tried the HDMI cable yet...maybe that would make a difference.
 
the first one on the dial. I flipped through all of them and got same results. I'll keep experimenting with it.

I plugged it into my brothers 40" MITSUBISHI plasma last night and that looked real nice. Maybe it looks better on Plasma! :)
 
could be the LCD, but its probably where your shooting it and/or your settings.

My 150 can seem noisy too.....when I shoot in a dark room with no lights. In a sufficiently lit room, it looks VERY good. Not noise free, but pretty clean considering the room is lit by a few 60w table lamps.

what kind of lighting is in the room?
 
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Edweirdo said:
My 150 is VERY noisy.....when I shoot in a dark room with no lights.
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Ha ha! I don't know of any camera that wouldn't be noisy in a scene like that :)
But then you could completely crush the blacks and it would become totally noise free and black! :thumbup:
 
I haven't had any noise problems on my 151e. I am using 1080i 50hz and it looks great on my computer displays and also great on my Plasma TV when I connect it up via HDMI.

The plasma is only 720 lines so maybe this is blusrring out any noise, but I doubt that is the reason. I think the problem may be either with your TV or with the component connection. Wirth trying a hdmi lead and see if that helps.

Stuart
 
I think the 150 has very little if any noise.

I thought at one point that the images coming out of this camera were somewhat noisy but what I was seeing had everything to do with the graphic chips on one of my computers and nothing to do with the camera....

My two cents.
 
i am having the same problem. even some outside shots, although those were in cine-v mode. have to do some tests. what does everyone recommend (scene settings) for the cleanest pic possible?
 
another thing it could be...

when I first hooked up the cam to an LCD it was a 42" bravia we have at work and at first I thougt there was more noise than I expected, untill I discovered that the tv's "sharpness" was set at 80%. Now everyone should know that this does'nt really increase sharpness but adds edge enhancement that also accentuates noise. Its artificial, so I turned it down to 0% and the image was much cleaner.

I would'nt trust previewing 150 (or any camera's) footage on a LCD that has not been calibrated. google "calibrating your hdtv".
 
Just an update...Last night I plugged my 150 into my Dads 73" Mitsubishi DLP and watched footage I took yesterday late afternoon and evening outside...and I was left speechless! The footage looked incredible!!

I plugged it in Via HDMI and the color, and clarity was beyond words!!! I kept trying to get my family to "appreciate" it...but most people just aren't nerds about this stuff (that's why i love this board) but it's funny how most people aren't near as critical about picture quality and contrast and "film" look!

So...I love the camera! It's just a little different coming from 3 and half years on the DVX getting used to the HD differences. I think i will have to be more careful when lighting interviews and work in darker rooms giving them a little more light.

I've never shot with an HVX, but I'm sure it has similar tendency to the HMC.

I'm loving 720p on SDHC cards! Now i have to dive into vegas with AVCHD and see what happens!

Anyone used scene file settings from their DVX and plugged them into their HMC?
I was going to pull out Barry's DVX DVD i got with it several years back and pull some scene files from it to get the closest "filmic" look i can.
 
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DanHD said:
Dude


component out is noisier by nature, and LCDs are always noisy

turn your coring up
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Please eplain how LCDs produce noise.
Chances are you're at a computer typing this message right now viewing in on an LCD.
Noise? I seriously doubt it.

Unless you are using a component or some other analog input on an LCD set, the incoming signal traffic is digital (DVI or HDMI).

If you're seeing noise using direct into your LCD via HDMI or DVI, I'd look at the source.
 
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rgaut said:
I plugged it in Via HDMI and the color, and clarity was beyond words!!! I kept trying to get my family to "appreciate" it...but most people just aren't nerds about this stuff (that's why i love this board) but it's funny how most people aren't near as critical about picture quality and contrast and "film" look!
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HAHAHHAHA! Hilarious, that would be like me too!
 
noise when viewing footage has SO much to do with the different elements involved, LCD, graphics card, cables, ECT.

I saw my hpx170 footage straight out of the camera on a pricey samsung 1080p projector and I was stunned. The camera looked 5 times better than it did on my NLE
 
If I am on a MACBOOK Pro, and viewing the footage on Final Cut Pro-transcoded to Pro Res on a HDMI monitor through my MAC, I shouldn't be losing any quality since it is digital throughout the system correct?
 
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