High Shutter Speed Demo

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Ptpiz

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Well, I just got my DVX100a yesterday and I filmed a little demonstration of how the shutter speed looks at 1/250 in 24p mode. It looks a lot like the "saving private ryan" effect that I have been attempting. The lighting in the house is low already and by speeding up the shutter... it is even lower. It is insane how much light you must have for a fast shutter speed. Anyway, the video can be seen here:

http://www.pizcofilms.com/videofiles/shuttertest.mov
 
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I am gonna start filming in 24p advanced from now on... i hear it is much better with FCP and it doesnt add the extra frames!
 
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LOL...im dizzy... :eek:

Try 1/500th, obviously it will be darker but it will look ten times cooler...also try filming your feet as you run around...you can really see the Saving Private Ryan effect then...Congrats on the cam again man...!!!

Yeah and I agree with you on the 24pa..it is ten times better than 24p itself (for me anyways). I like working in a 23.98 fps timeline. Can't wait to see some of your films..!!
 
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[quote author=Kyle Sherman link=board=Clips;num=1086449188;start=0#2 date=06/05/04 at 10:53:45]...also try filming your feet as you run around...you can really see the Saving Private Ryan effect then...[/quote]

Is there an actual technical term for that effect? Is it just merely the increased shutter speed that gives it that stuttery-like look?
 
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What's under discussion here is the staccato effect of the short shutter speed. In "Saving Private Ryan", apparently they also used a slightly-out-of-phase shutter to introduce some additional picture artifacts, smearing, flaring, etc. Those are effects that are not going to be able to be reproduced in-camera.
 
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ok i know this is kind of off topic but im curious
you look like you're 15/16.. how the hell did you get 3500?! tell me tell me im 16 and i need a dvx100 (not a) and i dont even have enough money and i have a job
 
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Well, don't work at McDonalds! LOL

I made made the first $1,400 of the DVX by working for a production company editing wedding videos, bar mitzvahs etc. Now I borred and extra $1,600 from my dad and I will pay him off by working TWO jobs this summer and by doing some freelance work with my new camera! I am 16 years old. The key is to use the talent that you have to make money.... that is the best way!
 
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still seems awkward.. my dad said he'll fund my films but i'll have to buy the camera. oh well, have fun
(btw i dont work at mcdonalds and hope to never have to.)
i never knew someone who got a job editing at age 16
 
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Don't feel bad Michael. I'm 34 and had to borrow a DVX to shoot my film! :-/
Still, if you're going to save up for the camera, go the extra mile for the 100a. It addresses a number of the short comings that the 100 has.
Ptpiz, kudos to you for taking such an interest at your age. Wish I did. Then again, there wasn't such a thing as NLE's back then! Oy... I'm old. ;D
 
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Yeah Michael a good tip is to save. Do not spend money on anything unless you actually have to. A lot of my friends and I have been known to spend money on things I don't have too You will find that your money will add up quickly if you are working good hours and saving..Then once you get your DVX you can quit your job, and do freelance work woohoo!!!! :D
 
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Any tips on finding freelance work? I live near boston and, unfortunately, it seems all the work is taken around here.
 
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[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=Clips;num=1086449188;start=0#4 date=06/05/04 at 15:29:14]What's under discussion here is the staccato effect of the short shutter speed.  In "Saving Private Ryan", apparently they also used a slightly-out-of-phase shutter to introduce some additional picture artifacts, smearing, flaring, etc.  Those are effects that are not going to be able to be reproduced in-camera.[/quote]

From what understand; they also used used lenses that had the 'protective coating' stripped off to induce 'flaring' in the imagery. Also using a type of 'hand held' drill mechanism to make the camera 'vibrate/shake' while shooting.
 
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Two things your could try doing. Check craigs list and market yourself. I am 17 and I seem to be getting tons of work. Give business cards to wedding dress stores in your area...make a good website that looks pro...make a name for yourself that sticks in peoples minds...Get one good job and do a great job - you will get many more through referals..

Make sure you network. Meet photographers. You need to be extremely outgoing to get work. Make yourself known.
 
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i strongly disagree. i will wait for a right price on a dvx100. i wont save for a 100a, because the extra 700+ dollars will buy me equipment for film shoots (a me66 and some lights :)) A couple improvements wont make the dvx100 a bad camera. im only 16, and i dont need all that when i can buy everything else i need.
the dvx100 kicks ass, and the dvx100a might be better, but i dont need it at age 16.
 
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Im 17 and im in the same boat. I want to get the dvx also. Im thinking about getting a job and financing the camera until i either A. pay it off totally, or B. sell the camera after a while and pay off the loan. It seems like a really good way to "Rent" the camera. Im not too familiar with financing and all so if im wrong please tell me. A camera store near me rents out the dvx at $150/day, why not just finance the camera for as long as you need it, and then sell it and pay loan back? it seems alot better than renting.

and with this editing job, how did you go about doing this? i have the proper editing tools to do it and i consider myself pretty good at editing, but i have no clue how to get one of those jobs and i feel like people wont take me seriously because of my age.
 
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[quote author=Ptpiz link=board=Clips;num=1086449188;start=0#0 date=06/05/04 at 08:26:28]It is insane how much light you must have for a fast shutter speed.[/quote]

For anyone who doesn't know, there's a direct mathematical correlation. If you cut the shutter speed in half, you need twice as much light. So from 1/60 to 1/120, you'd need twice as much light. From 1/60 to 1/250, you'd need four times as much. To get 1/500, you'd need eight times as much light.
 
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Interesting! I was under the impression the correlation was not linear. But I'll try your formula as soon as I get a chance!
 
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Well it's absolutely logical, if you think about it. Half the time exposed, Twice the light. To spice up a bit: One more Stop.
 
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hey ptpiz

was that just you running around - seems pretty smooth like you were on skates or something - i have been trying to get hold of a strap on steadycam that follows your every move when running etc - it produces a really intense effect similar to what you done - but with a lot more steadiness ( is that even a word - or jus bad spelling ?)

I saw this contraption in the "making of" justin timberlake video for rock your body on mtv - they strapped on this frame looking thing on him kind of like a baby holder - but instead of a baby a camera points up at your face & moves with your every move - dont know what its called but it produces a very tripped out intense point of view.

enjoy your new cam - look fwd to your stuff
 
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Yeah, those shots with a camera mounted on someone can get pretty intense (Requiem for a Dream). I wish I had one of those, but all I did here is run around the house with the camera held out. I have become pretty stable with my hands and feet and the DVX100. I have been doing a lot of practicing :)
 
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