Here are my audio needs (sorry this could annoy some people)

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mrjenkins44

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I've read all the stickies and whatnot, and my budget isn't that much of an issue. But here is all I need.

I will be shooting some shorts, indoors, with maybe 2-3 people talking, at the most. I will be shooting it gonzo/documentary style.

I don't know enough about film making and editing right now, I am just learning the basics.

I don't want to use my T3I rebel's onboard audio, but I am not dropping 2k on audio either. Maybe when I have some skills or I know what I'm doing.

I thought maybe buying a Video Mic Pro and just using that for a few months till I know what I'm doing and I've saved up more money. Or maybe buying some G3's (but 2 is 600 bucks).

I don't care THAT much about the production quality of these shorts. Right now I only want to see if our ideas are funny or not. I was going to just buy the videomic pro and use it for a while and then sell it once I level up in skills.

I wanted to buy Lavs, but 2 is 600 bucks and I may need up to 4. Yowzers.

Many of you are probably thinking, what's your point? I guess what I am trying to do, is have speed on my side. I want to be able to shoot as much as I can in the shortest amount of time. No multiple cameras, boom operators, etc.
 
I dont understand your needs / the question.

if you don't care about quality get the videomic pro

I dont understand what you are trying to say

you should get the videomic pro.
 
mrjenkins44 said:
my budget isn't that much of an issue.
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mrjenkins44 said:
I am not dropping 2k on audio either.
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Completely contradictory. A basic entry level "pro" sound kit is going to set you back at least $2k. Yup, you can cut that budget, but then you are also compromising sound quality, reliability and ease of use. (BTW, the Sennheiser G3 systems are $600 each, so two would be $1,200, four $2,400, etc.)

"Sound is half of the experience."

"Your project will only look as good as it sounds."

If you all want to do is "sketches" and some experimentation then get the RVM and just have done with it. Then, when you are ready to do your projects "for real" you can hire a pro sound crew. Otherwise you should get the proper gear and learn how to do audio properly from day one.
 
unclebob6958 said:
If you all want to do is "sketches" and some experimentation then get the RVM and just have done with it. Then, when you are ready to do your projects "for real" you can hire a pro sound crew. Otherwise you should get the proper gear and learn how to do audio properly from day one.
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I would second this in a big way. There really isn't much middle ground. You have to get everything up to a certain level before the better components actually produce noticeably better results.
 
Hi

I hear you (no pun intended). You are feeling your way and learning. Too many paths / choices to spend a bundle and at this point have guessed wrong.

So you are considering a small step - RVM (Rhode Video Mic).

I will offer you two pieces of advice that may help you.

1) How close you get the mic is job one. Everything else is very important but also takes a back seat to what I belive is the inverse square law - how close the mic is. Alsways keep that in mind when shooting, no matter what you are shooting with and you will improve. You very well may know this, and if so accept appologies.

2) Make some video you hate. It's digital - it's free. Experiment. Shoot with your camera at different distances from subject with your camera as is. Indoors and outdoors. Except now you are shooting to observe the sound. You will learn alot is my guess. Then bring your camera into a store and try the RVM or use their camera of same model. See if it is better for you. You talk about making gonzo/docs. That really is going to make your sound needs a specialty case. All you hear about film sound won't all apply. You may very well sacrifice some sound quality to get the shot.

I would also rent the wireless over a weekend and experiment like crazy before pulling the trigger on that purchase.
Or, again at least try it in a store. Note: Please BUY it in the store if you try it there. Sorry just pushing my own ethics upon you - NOT wanting to morph thread onto this topic!

Also maybe some others can offer you some advice on sound for gonzo/docs. It is an increasingly popular format with its own methods.

You are on the learning curve just as we all are here. Good luck and I look forward to watching your docs.
 
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