BergVision
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HD? A must? Or a Treat?
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mikkowilson
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HD is 100% optional.
There is NO mandate anywhere that forces HD. Everything that does HD is backwards compatible to SD too.
- Mikko
There is NO mandate anywhere that forces HD. Everything that does HD is backwards compatible to SD too.
- Mikko
smkoch
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eventually everything will Change period, I mean I have a stack of VHS and I rarely watch them anymore since DVD came out, the same will happen eventually they'll stop making standard def dvd all together. but when? who knows. SD DVD is a huge thing and sure people will step up to HD but lot's won't be able to afford it for years, at least until half decent HD set's start selling for a couple hundred.
They're this huge idea now that if your not shooting HD your shooting crap, but that's just not true. the DVX is an amazing camera and unless your production warrant's an HD capture than I'm sure your footage will be sweet.
so don't worry about it, worry about writing a good story cause in the end that's what will matter the most
They're this huge idea now that if your not shooting HD your shooting crap, but that's just not true. the DVX is an amazing camera and unless your production warrant's an HD capture than I'm sure your footage will be sweet.
so don't worry about it, worry about writing a good story cause in the end that's what will matter the most
Sean Michael
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It's going to take many years for consumers to fully adopt HD. Think about how many TVs most people have in their homes. How many of those TVs are HD?
I love HD, but out of 6 TVs in my house, only one is HD.
I'd love to own an HVX, but don't know where I'd store the content. The camera would require an upgraded PC, and we really need HD-DVD for archival purposes.
I intend to get an HVX sooner or later, but for now am content to wait, watch, and shoot with my good ole SD DVX.
I love HD, but out of 6 TVs in my house, only one is HD.
I'd love to own an HVX, but don't know where I'd store the content. The camera would require an upgraded PC, and we really need HD-DVD for archival purposes.
I intend to get an HVX sooner or later, but for now am content to wait, watch, and shoot with my good ole SD DVX.
Barry_Green
Moderator
A transition to HD will happen if the consumer buys into it.
So far it's been slow going.
"New" and "better" come along all the time. Remember LaserDisc? Sure it was better, but it was also a flop. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD may very well flop too.
If you're a content producer doing high-budget stuff, HD makes sense -- it really is better than standard-def, and when you're spending bucks, it makes sense to get the best-looking master you can. But if you're a consumer, or you're producing something strictly for DVD, a DVX does a fine job of that and will continue to do just as good a job for as long as DVD remains a viable delivery medium.
DVD won't be replaced for many, many years. Other formats may come along and share shelf space, but DVD will still be viable for at least a half decade, probably more like 10 to 15 years.
If DVD becomes obsolete, I'd wager it would be more due to a different delivery paradigm altogether, rather than "more of the same"; i.e., it isn't blu-ray that'll obsolete DVD, it'll be the internet. If someone figures out a way to deliver movies the same way that iTunes and BuyMusic deliver songs, then that will do to DVD what itunes did to CDs, and continues to do.
I think it'll be at least five years before the AVERAGE consumer has both a high-def TV set, and some way to receive or watch high-def content. Right now about 10% of American households have an HDTV, and about 1/3 of them have the ability to receive HD content (meaning, about 3% of America is subscribing to HD cable, or DirecTV HD, or has a D-VHS deck, or has an over-the-air antenna and is receiving high-def broadcasts). It's taken them over 8 years to get to this point (HDTV sets were first marketed here in 1998); I say it's safe to assume it'll be at least another five years before it's hit 50% of American homes.
Lots of commercial and network programming is being produced in HD though, so if you're producing big-budget stuff, the time to go HD is now.
But if you're producing for the end user (meaning, DVD), the DVX is fine, and I'm certain your DVX will wear out long before it becomes technically obsolete.
So far it's been slow going.
"New" and "better" come along all the time. Remember LaserDisc? Sure it was better, but it was also a flop. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD may very well flop too.
If you're a content producer doing high-budget stuff, HD makes sense -- it really is better than standard-def, and when you're spending bucks, it makes sense to get the best-looking master you can. But if you're a consumer, or you're producing something strictly for DVD, a DVX does a fine job of that and will continue to do just as good a job for as long as DVD remains a viable delivery medium.
DVD won't be replaced for many, many years. Other formats may come along and share shelf space, but DVD will still be viable for at least a half decade, probably more like 10 to 15 years.
If DVD becomes obsolete, I'd wager it would be more due to a different delivery paradigm altogether, rather than "more of the same"; i.e., it isn't blu-ray that'll obsolete DVD, it'll be the internet. If someone figures out a way to deliver movies the same way that iTunes and BuyMusic deliver songs, then that will do to DVD what itunes did to CDs, and continues to do.
I think it'll be at least five years before the AVERAGE consumer has both a high-def TV set, and some way to receive or watch high-def content. Right now about 10% of American households have an HDTV, and about 1/3 of them have the ability to receive HD content (meaning, about 3% of America is subscribing to HD cable, or DirecTV HD, or has a D-VHS deck, or has an over-the-air antenna and is receiving high-def broadcasts). It's taken them over 8 years to get to this point (HDTV sets were first marketed here in 1998); I say it's safe to assume it'll be at least another five years before it's hit 50% of American homes.
Lots of commercial and network programming is being produced in HD though, so if you're producing big-budget stuff, the time to go HD is now.
But if you're producing for the end user (meaning, DVD), the DVX is fine, and I'm certain your DVX will wear out long before it becomes technically obsolete.
myfriendimage
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mikkowilson said:
In the stock footage world, SD is dead.
Depends on who's buying. I still sell SD stock.
myfriendimage
Carbonite Member
David Jimerson said:
Mabye getty would or clergy because they buy everything, but I know footage firm, artbeats, ocean footage, nature footage, wilderness footage, and blue sky footage. I will say that I have as many jobs replacing SD reels with HD as I do getting new Reels.
myfriendimage
Carbonite Member
I think it all depends on what your shooting, I know since I shoot HD I subconciously just surround myself with HD, if you shoot on SD Im sure you probably are more in tune with SD gigs with a DVX, XL2 what have you. So I'm sure to joe schmoe with a DVX100b SD is alive and kicking, but to me where I do absolutely nothing with SD aside from the sometimes downconverting to DVCPRO50 SD is something I never see, aside from TV.
Sean Michael
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Barry_Green said:
Agreed. The Internet is the elephant in the corner.
It's natural to get excited about the new HD options--because they are exciting! The quality is remarkable.
But when you consider where people are actually viewing video content today... and where rapid exponential growth will occur in the near future... don't forget iPods, cellphones, laptops, and PCs.
They just need to resolve bandwidth issues. 1080P is a little difficult to stream on the net today. Where as 480p, 720p is actually not too bad to download. (apple.com trailers)
Zak Forsman
Major Contributor
for me, the switch to HD was mandatory. I produce and edit featurettes for the major studios' home video releases and my clients all want HD content for their new HD-DVD/Blu-Ray formats.
smkoch
Well-known member
TimurCivan said:
yeah it's not bad when you have to download a 3min trailer and although a few people here get amazing speeds (as discussed in another thread ) many don't dispite being on highspeed, so downloading a 3 min trailer is one thing, downloading a 2hr hd film is a big difference.
there's so many without highspeed or adequate computers on top of that so the idea of using the internet as a delivery method probably won't work for so many years yet as a reliable and cost effective solution.
i think i need to master the DVX first......