HC-X1000 playback test

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shellant

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Hello to all..
HC-X1000
4K 60P
MP4(LPCM)
REC FORMAT 4K/60p 150M

-Shot about 30 clips .. an hour all up.
Checked via Thumbnail button that the files existed.
Playback in camera was successful.

-Transferred the card to a folder on my computer
Confirmed that the files transferred and played back in Premiere CS6

-Put the card back in the camera and now the camera will not play back from the card.

-The image on the LCD screen is now the appropriate number of thumbnail icons but gray square with an explanation mark "!" .

If I try to play clip never the less , I get a message on the screen saying " CANNOT PLAY THIS SCENE ON THIS MODEL"

I haven't had a chance yet to check and see if the same happens with other record settings..
Any one else encounter this?
Thank you for looking
Tony
 
Did you delete anything at all out of the card directory structure?

Have you verified that the camera is in the appropriate playback mode for what the footage was recorded in?
 
Thanks for looking Barry
No I did not delete anything from the card. Yes I did verify the playback mode for what the footage was recorded in.
in Fact , whilst the card was still unreadable by the camera , I shot another clip. That clip was visible in thumbnail view as a frame grab( as it should be), the original files were still unreadable.
Then put the SD card into my card reader and only looked at the card contents in Premiere CS6 . Everything was fine.
Put the card back in the camera and now the latest clip is now unreadable by the camera.
If I put the SD card back in my card reader the contents are still accessible and seemingly not Corrupt.
Sorry for all the words , just trying to give you as much info as I can.
Cheers
Tony
 
I've done that exact same thing dozens of times with no issue... so my next question is: Mac? Are you doing this on a Mac computer?
 
Thanks Barry.
Yes I am doing this on a Mac..
I should have a chance tonight to try it on a PC.. I will let you know if there is any difference.
Thank you
Tony
 
I've used Macs and Panny cams for years without a single issue as described. That includes every GH in the series, AF100, AC160, and now the X1000. This is also having used 3 or 4 different Mac models and several operating systems.

The big caveat here is I read a comment by Barry years ago that it was good practice to always lock a card before putting it into a Mac. And so I developed a habit of doing so. Can't say for sure if that has anything to do with my lack of problems. But it's a minor thing to do as a safeguard, and has become 2nd-nature for me.
 
Tried it on a PC last night running CS5.5
Same result.
I put the SD card in the card reader and created a folder in the premiere project window.
I then imported the contents to that folder.
The files imported fine. I closed the Premiere project .Ejected the SD card and put it back in the camera.
The Files are now unreadable via the camera .
The files are not corrupted, I could still remove the sd card from the camera and read them fine, its just the camera is not recognizing the files to read them in camera. I could continue shooting on the card and previewing in camera anything I shoot after I put the sd card back in the camera.
Tony
 
The reason I asked the "mac" question is because the Mac writes files to the card (or disk or whatever) whenever it's first put in the Mac. Something like "Spotlight indexing" (I'm not a Mac user and don't know exactly what it does).

Changing the directory or adding or deleting files, can mess up the ability to play the footage back on a camera or AVCHD-compatible device.

That's why (as said above) you simply *must* lock the SD card before putting it in the computer. I pretty much guarantee you that if you lock it before you put it in the computer, you will have no issues with being able to play back the footage that's on the card.

As for it happening on Windows -- are you creating the project folder on the SD card, or otherwise doing anything that involves writing to the SD card? If so -- DON'T. Lock the card before you put it in the computer, and you will have no problems.

As an alternative -- use the HC-X1000 as your card reader. Connect via USB cable. The HC-X1000 and all recent Panasonic cameras prevent the ability to write to the cards that are loaded in the camera -- as such, they will prevent any of the compatibility issues you are encountering.
 
Solution:

First, you need to show hidden files

1/ In Finder click on Go
2/ Hold down Option key and hidden directories & files will appear.
3/ Click on required directory or file.

You will see a file called .ds.store. This is the file Barry is talking about. Mac writes it in. It's part of the spotlight indexing system.

Trash it and remove.
 
Thank You everyone for looking in.
To answer Barry's question "As for it happening on Windows -- are you creating the project folder on the SD card, or otherwise doing anything that involves writing to the SD card?"
I am not. I format the card in camera , record to the card and either Mac or PC put the card in the card reader to transfer to computer.
Unfortunately I have been called out of town for a week or two so can not try the above suggestions..
When I get home the first thing I will do is try locking the card before I put it in the card reader and as you have suggested I am sure this will resolve the issue.
Thank you again for all your suggestions.
I will post my results when I get home next week
Cheers
Tony
 
a year old thread but I bet your computer added a .ds file or some kind of invisible index file into the folders and screwed it up (not badly) but I have my mac osx set so I can see invisible files and .ds plus spotlight and my smart monitoring for recovery seem to add files into anything I add via external cables (of course I setup the system that way)
 
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