Has anyone notice this line from Pana?

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ImBiggie

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What do they mean by "some variable frame rates in 720"? Did they limit the frame rate capability of the camera? Their high end camera says "variable frame rate" not some variable frame rate.

• 1080/60i, 1080/24p, 1080/30p, 720/60p, 720/24p, 720/30p, 480/60i, 480/24p, 480/30p

• Some variable frame rates in 720p mode

• DVCPRO HD/50/25 and DV recording

• 1/3" 16:9 native progressive 3-CCD imager

• 16:9/4:3 switchable for DVCPRO 50/25 and DV recording, 16:9 native for DVCPRO HD

• Wide angle Leica Dicomar high definition lens with optical image stabilizer (motorized/manual mode switchable)

• ND filters

• Cam-driven manual zoom

• CineGammaTM and NewsGamma software

• Two P2 card slots

• Mini-DV tape transport for DV recording

• 3.5" LCD display

• 48kHz 16-bit 4-channel PCM audio (2 XLRs)

• HD Component (D4) output

• Composite input/output

• S-Video input/output

• Standard IEEE 1394 interface

• USB 2.0
 
This has been discussed extensively on the board so you may want to do a search. Essentially, it means that the frame rates will not be *continuously* variable, but you'll be able to choose from a (presumably extensive) menu of preset framerates, when shooting 720P.
 
As specified by Jan at the demo at NAB, there will be a limited amount of frame rates available with the HVX. Panasonic wanted to leave "some" key features for only the Varicam.
 
Do any of you think Panasonic is going back on what they promise? Just wondering, not starting trouble. if they did, I hope they don't go back on anything else.
 
IMHO, the idea of variable frame rates is a cool idea, but with the ability of a great many software packages to speed up video and add motion blur and or frame blending makes this feature more of a novelty than anything truly useful.

P.S. I've read many out there are interested in ramping effects, here's one solution: shoot (with the HVX) in 60p, then do your ramping in a 24p composition in something like After Effects. You'll wind up with much greater control all the way around on an effect like this. :thumbsup:
 
ImBiggie said:
Do any of you think Panasonic is going back on what they promise? Just wondering, not starting trouble. if they did, I hope they don't go back on anything else.
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How so? This is exactly what was *always* promised. Nothing has changed except you happened to read the fine print for yourself.
 
Re: frame rate being a novelty.

Re: frame rate being a novelty.

Absolutely NOT!

Frame blending and slow mo on video currently looks like crap! Totally amatuer. The Hvx will be silky smooth when played slow, and the fast motion stuff will actually have motion blur as opposed to being rapidly sped up video.

This is going to be considerable, and for me is as important as the increased resolution!

That's my 2 cents...I'm PUMPED! BRING IT!
 
ImBiggie said:
Do any of you think Panasonic is going back on what they promise? Just wondering, not starting trouble. if they did, I hope they don't go back on anything else.
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Hi,

We are delivering exactly what we have stated, some variable frame rates, it will not have the continuous set that VariCam does. It has never been stated that it would be any thing other that some variable frame rates.

Hope that clears this up,

Jan
 
callan said:
Frame blending and slow mo on video currently looks like crap! Totally amatuer. The Hvx will be silky smooth when played slow, and the fast motion stuff will actually have motion blur as opposed to being rapidly sped up video.
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I've actually done some accelerated video effects for a pseudo time lapse shot(in After Effects) with frame blending activated. You'd be hard pressed to differentiate the final result from video shot at a slower frame rate.

I do agree that slow motion derived from SD 60i footage generally leaves much to be desired, that's why I suggested shooting in 60p with the HVX (when it arrives) and doing any motion ramping in a program like After Effects.
 
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