Handling Canon´s "f" format ?

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emu

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Hi,

I got a question regarding handling of Canon´s 25/24f format with MC3:

I know that the "f" format is not true progressiv so I can´t capture it in a 1080p25 project. The only workaround I found was an older thread in the avid forum:

http://community.avid.com/forums/p/17073/95433.aspx#95433

I tried this and everything seems to work but I don´t understand Point 3 of this topic: I can´t see any differences between deinterlaced material and the transcoded DNX185 material. Is it really essential to make a deinterlacing after transcoding (tried it a few times with different material, but there seems to be no different at all) ?

Is there possibly a better way to handle the Canon format within the avid application (the thread is over two years old) ?

Thanks.
Jan
 
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You got further than I ever have. I have never even been able to get 24f into the system, without capturing through FCP, and then importing the capture files.

Although I would assume that since the f format does that weird interpolation to get it's other fields, the deinterlacing would be to save you some headaches due to inter frame stuff.
 
I tried to edit 24f footage with avid but finally gave up and started cutting all of my XL-H1 footage on FCP. All of the work arounds are a huge waste of time when you could be cutting the footage and making money.
If you are dead set on cutting in avid; edit interlaced, export and then strip the interlacing in After Effects.
 
Mhhm, yes, the workaround which was posted in the avid forum is very time consuming, but it seems to work.
Is there a preset in FCP for capturing 25f footage or how do they handle the f format there (I don´t have FCP right now but maybe I´ll have a deeper look at it later although I like the avid GUI more and got used to it)?

I wished avid would make things easier and implement the essential formats quicker. My next task is to test RED Material with MC :) - in theory it should work but I assume that FC has it´s advantage here too.
 
That work around on the forum can actually be dealt with a lot quicker, I have used plenty 25f footage and simply edited in interlaced and output back to m2t and then render to dvd (no deinterlacing) and the final result has no interlace artifacts what so ever, so you don't need to do all that.

To prove it, check out my Vimeo vids ( http://www.vimeo.com/user489067/videos ), all of them (except for 2 which were shot 50i) edited in HDV50i and output to m2t and then to wmv or some of them straight to wmv, regardless of the output I never used deinterlace for any of them. if you can see any interlacing let me know.

Plus you can always use fluidfilm progressive and render your timeline and then just open a progressive project and import, so even doing this is still quicker.
 
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