H4n or Rode video mic

I use Plural Eyes to sync audio in FCP without any problem.
If you do add a mic to your rig with the Zoom please check out my solution to mounting multiple accessories to your DSLR. The J-Cube allows you to mount a mic, wireless receiver, and audio recorder together-actually you can mount any 3 accessories with shoe mounts to The J-Cube. I also have Pro Shoe 1/4-20 to shoe adapters available.

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So I'm just building my production rig, and have almost completed my setup but I'm lacking in the audio dept.

My delima is that I'm somewhat broke now that I've purchased so much gear and haven't had any method for capturing audio.

My question is should I just go ahead and buy the rode video for now, and when I'm closer to an actual production add the H4n recorder later, as it is the more exspensive of the two components.

Or

Should I buy the H4n and use it as my mic system now, and add the Rode later.

I know the h4n isn't a mic per se but it has produced great sound recordings from the looks of other posts.

Help me with the decision please.

Here is the best solution I could come up with...buy the Zoom. For the money its great! Use the onboard stereo mics and mount the whole thing to the 7d hotshoe as pictured previously. Buy a male to male stereo miniplug cable and run from the headphone out of the zoom to the input on the 7d. Just make sure you watch your "headphone volume" as it'll distort if its too hot. THEN, once you have both your video and audio file look into a plugin for FCP called "pluraleyes" It will automatically sync your audio file from the zoom with the video file of the 7d. Since you sent the headphone feed into the 7d it'll serve as great reference audio but pluraeyes will sync up the zoom audio and then you can later delete it. PRESTO! Instantly better audio WITHOUT audio gain control screwing things up!

Just my two cents...Philip Bloom recommends this method as well.
 
I use Plural Eyes to sync audio in FCP without any problem.
If you do add a mic to your rig with the Zoom please check out my solution to mounting multiple accessories to your DSLR. The J-Cube allows you to mount a mic, wireless receiver, and audio recorder together-actually you can mount any 3 accessories with shoe mounts to The J-Cube. I also have Pro Shoe 1/4-20 to shoe adapters available.

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How doe this hold up as far as durability. I'm scared to put too much onto the camera's hot shoe in fear that it'll break the thing off!! :undecided
 
I wouldn't load too much stuff onto the camera's hotshoe. It simply wasn't designed to hold a shotgun mic and recorder or a monitor. It was designed to hold a 10 ounce flash!

I have my Zoom attached to a Nasty Clamp ( http://www.nastyclamps.com/index.php) and I clamp it to the legs of my tripod or whatever else is around.

I may be in the minority on this, but I see no need for the Rode mic. I'm getting good enough reference audio from the 7D to sync with the Zoom using Pluraleyes. I've been as far away from the camera as 20 feet and the quality is sufficient to sync with the double system sound.
 
I wouldn't load too much stuff onto the camera's hotshoe. It simply wasn't designed to hold a shotgun mic and recorder or a monitor. It was designed to hold a 10 ounce flash!

I have my Zoom attached to a Nasty Clamp ( http://www.nastyclamps.com/index.php) and I clamp it to the legs of my tripod or whatever else is around.

I may be in the minority on this, but I see no need for the Rode mic. I'm getting good enough reference audio from the 7D to sync with the Zoom using Pluraleyes. I've been as far away from the camera as 20 feet and the quality is sufficient to sync with the double system sound.

I am not sure which strobe you have at 10 oz, but the Canon 580 EX I have used for years is 19 0z with batteries. Add a diffuser and the weight will top 20 oz. The J-Cube is 4 oz, and with the audio recorder and mic is well under 16 oz., less than a strobe.
 
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I'm an audio engineer and I have both the Zoom H4N and the Rode VideoMic. Rode has a fine reputation and their mics sound great, but the VideoMic's plastic construction is fragile. The shock mount is bulky and I've had several of the tiny rubber bands break from normal use. The plastic hot shoe broke off very easily and I had to replace it with a metal adapter.

The H4N is the most useful portable audio recorder I have ever worked with. It records flawless 4-channel 44.1/48k PCM or MP3 into SD cards, with built-in ear & eye monitoring, phantom-power XLR inputs, and steerable stereo mics. Its only significant drawbacks are its weight and battery limitations. Multiple sets of rechargeable batteries are a must for using it in the field. I would not recommend mounting it directly on a DSLR hotshoe - get a rack to elevate it higher and angle it down toward the subject. Add an a shotgun mic of an appropriate length (and preferably a boom operator to go with it) and you should be able to record professional quality audio.
 
I'm an audio engineer and I have both the Zoom H4N and the Rode VideoMic. Rode has a fine reputation and their mics sound great, but the VideoMic's plastic construction is fragile. The shock mount is bulky and I've had several of the tiny rubber bands break from normal use. The plastic hot shoe broke off very easily and I had to replace it with a metal adapter.

The H4N is the most useful portable audio recorder I have ever worked with. It records flawless 4-channel 44.1/48k PCM or MP3 into SD cards, with built-in ear & eye monitoring, phantom-power XLR inputs, and steerable stereo mics. Its only significant drawbacks are its weight and battery limitations. Multiple sets of rechargeable batteries are a must for using it in the field. I would not recommend mounting it directly on a DSLR hotshoe - get a rack to elevate it higher and angle it down toward the subject. Add an a shotgun mic of an appropriate length (and preferably a boom operator to go with it) and you should be able to record professional quality audio.

I took the silicone holders off my VideoMic and replaced them with orthopedic rubber bands (two on each peg). I found that the silicone rubber they used tended to make noise as it rubbed against the plastic. The rubber bands are much quieter and I got 100 for something like $2.50 so if they break I just would put on another. None have broken so far.

As far as the hot shoe breaking off and your rubber bands snapping I would say you seem to be quite rough with your equipment :)
 
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