H4n noise preamp

1/8 to 1/4 or xlr
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there is a 1/8 line in on the back
On the back of what? You don't have the same character limits here that you do on your cell phone's text message. Don't make us guess what you need to do, spell out exactly what you're trying to connect with what pieces of gear and we'll have a fighting chance of giving you answers that'll work. I gather you're trying to connect the Sony wireless receiver to something but just what is it you want to connect it to?
 
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On the back of what? You don't have the same character limits here that you do on your cell phone's text message. Don't make us guess what you need to do, spell out exactly what you're trying to connect with what pieces of gear and we'll have a fighting chance of giving you answers that'll work. I gather you're trying to connect the Sony wireless receiver to something but just what is it you want to connect it to?
i apologize about that.

I'm wondering if I should attach the lav via a 1/8 jack into the recorder or use a 1/8 to 1/4 or xlr then plug that into the recorder?
 
i apologize about that.

I'm wondering if I should attach the lav via a 1/8 jack into the recorder or use a 1/8 to 1/4 or xlr then plug that into the recorder?
Your recorder is the H4n, right? If so, the 1/4 phone inputs are instrument level and are not suitable for a mic level signal, so a 1/8 to 1/4 adapter is pointless. You could plug into the 1/8 stereo mic input on the back. Be sure to turn off "plug-in power" in the menu if you do. Or you could get an 1/8 to XLR adapter like this one - http://www.rodemic.com/accessories/vxlr - and use the XLR mic input. Make sure phantom power is turned off in the menu if you go this route. I'd get the adapter, never hurts to have one or two in your kit and they're cheap at about $20 each, try both ways of feeding the recorder and go with the method you think sounds best.
 
Your recorder is the H4n, right? If so, the 1/4 phone inputs are instrument level and are not suitable for a mic level signal, so a 1/8 to 1/4 adapter is pointless. You could plug into the 1/8 stereo mic input on the back. Be sure to turn off "plug-in power" in the menu if you do. Or you could get an 1/8 to XLR adapter like this one - http://www.rodemic.com/accessories/vxlr - and use the XLR mic input. Make sure phantom power is turned off in the menu if you go this route. I'd get the adapter, never hurts to have one or two in your kit and they're cheap at about $20 each, try both ways of feeding the recorder and go with the method you think sounds best.
ah much thanks!

I'll also be getting the ls 7 or the marantz therefore I'll just be getting the adapters then
 
Keep in mind that many lav mics still require power to function, but this IS NOT 12 or 48 volt phantom power. ( phantom power will fry a lav mic )

Most small recorders ( like the Olympus LS-7 ) or wireless UHF transmitters ( like the Sennheiser G3 model ) are able to power a lav mic directly through the 3.5mm connector, so you can simply plug-in and go. ( you may have to turn Mic Power on in the recorder's menu )

Attaching a lav to an XLR connector will normally require a power adapter from the lav manufacturer in order to function, and power adapters can cost almost as much as the lav mic. ( Tram TR-79+ Power Supply : $175 )
 
The OST PP transformer/adapter is much cheaper, but must be configured with the correct connecter and wiring for a specific mic.
 
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ahh i'll look into that
mean while I bought a marantz 661 for around $470 from amazon with 16gb card.
I noticed that using the lav its a bit quieter compared to the zoom, is there any specific thing I should be on the lookout for?
i have it connected via line 2, atten is at 0 on both the receiver and the recorder.
 
i have it connected via line 2, atten is at 0 on both the receiver and the recorder.
"atten is at 0 on both the receiver and the recorder"
- The Marantz 661 is nice.
- W/O re-reading the entire thread .. can you be more specific, ie: transmitter gain/sensitivity and mic? What make/model receiver?
 
- The Marantz 661 is nice.
- W/O re-reading the entire thread .. can you be more specific, ie: transmitter gain/sensitivity and mic? What make/model receiver?
Sure
the mic is the Sony uwp 1, the atten is at 0, and the recorder is the marantz 661. The zoom h4n works fine with the lav though
 
Essentially I cannot use the marantz to record unless it's natively xlr? I tried an xlr dynamic mic and that worked well, but using an mke300 via 1/8 to line2 it's very quiet
 
Essentially I cannot use the marantz to record unless it's natively xlr?

The "Line 2" input on your Marantz recorder is for a LINE level audio signal, which is 50 dB stronger than a MIC level signal.

Likely your Sennheiser Mke300 mic outputs ONLY a MIC level signal, so you need to use an 1/8 to XLR adapter to plug your Mke300 mic into the XLR MIC level inputs on your Marantz recorder.

Just make sure that 48 volt phantom power on your Marantz recorder is set to OFF, or you might damage your Mke300 mic.

Rode VXLR - Mono Mini-Jack to XLR Converter : $10
 
The "Line 2" input on your Marantz recorder is for a LINE level audio signal, which is 50 dB stronger than a MIC level signal.

Likely your Sennheiser Mke300 mic outputs ONLY a MIC level signal, so you need to use an 1/8 to XLR adapter to plug your Mke300 mic into the XLR MIC level inputs on your Marantz recorder.

Just make sure that 48 volt phantom power on your Marantz recorder is set to OFF, or you might damage your Mke300 mic.

Rode VXLR - Mono Mini-Jack to XLR Converter : $10
Would that work for the Sony wireless also? I connected a cable with a 1/8 in one end and xlr to another and it's still quiet
 
Would that work for the Sony wireless also? I connected a cable with a 1/8 in one end and xlr to another and it's still quiet

Yes. You simply plug the Rode adapter into the bottom of your Marantz recorder, which will convert the XLR input into a 1/8 inch input. Just make sure phantom power on your recorder is OFF.

You can even plug 2 of the Rode adapters in to the left and right XLR inputs on your Marantz recorder in order to record from 2 different 1/8 inch MIC level inputs.
 
Yes. You simply plug the Rode adapter into the bottom of your Marantz recorder, which will convert the XLR input into a 1/8 inch input. Just make sure phantom power on your recorder is OFF.

You can even plug 2 of the Rode adapters in to the left and right XLR inputs on your Marantz recorder in order to record from 2 different 1/8 inch MIC level inputs.
I'm a bit loss on why using that would work but using a cable with 1/8 and xlr would not
 
I'm a bit loss on why using that would work but using a cable with 1/8 and xlr would not

It shouldn't make a difference.

Do you have the LINE / MIC switch on the bottom of the recorder ( beside the XLR inputs ) set to the MIC input setting? ( definitely NOT the LINE level setting, or the MIC + P48 ON setting )
 
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