Green screen test (on super crappy footage)

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Sigh...

That was very nice.
 
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WTF? that was a complete time waster... for both me (watching) and you (encoding+posting). :o ???

On the other hand.. it's really impressive how a point n' shot scene could look so 16mm-ish from a DV cam... Horray for the DVX! ;D
 
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OK... so I was going to wait a day or two to see what people would say about the footage. Or rather if someone would say "hey that just looks like a poorly-keyed green-screen shot!".

But, a prompt reply from poor John Hudson made me feel bad that I may have been hyping people up for what is... admittedly... perhaps the least inspired clip of all time.

The point was just to share what sort of a quality of chroma-key I'm managing to get with the DVX. Yes, the footage is bullocks. Sorry about that. I probably should've spent a bit more time getting something pretty looking. :P

Cheers.
 
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I can't see it. for some reason my imac/quicktime says its missing the codecs to display properly. All I see is white screen. do you have a quicktime version? I guess I will have to turn on the pc
I do know this is a avi file I wonder why media player for mac did not open it?
 
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OK got a Quicktime up:

http://www.cliii.com/kevin/flame_on_green03.mov

And a still of the foreground element:

http://www.cliii.com/kevin/greenfore.jpg

Hopefully the compression is OK. I don't know the first thing about what codec to use or any of that. I was trying to compress kinda high quality... cause the point of it is to see the detail in the matte edge, so compressing it heavily doesn't really work.
 
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"Boring" -Homer Simpson
 
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What software?
 
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pretty good looing gnree screen. did you shot the green screened hand outside that day too? 'cause the lighting matches very well.
 
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the greenscreen looks good. :) it was certainly by far the greatest footage i have ever seen.. well, besides everything else anyway...
 
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Hi All,

I am the Hand in the footage  ;)

It was all shot within about 5 mins. If you look you will see the green screen.. he he.. a small green paper taped to the garage.

We were probably too close to the green Screen when we initially shot, but being as it was a small piece of paper..

I did a key with Ultimate that looked passable, but this looks awesome!  

Mad Props to Hemo!!!

By the way, Hemo did the camera shake on the house and then tracked it to make the hand match the move.. to make the key as hard as posibile.

I belive the footage was shot 30p without cinegama and is a tad overexposed for my taste.

Can't wait to use this in a REAL shot!

BTW the topic should read "OMG greatest Green Screen footage ever of all time holy %$#"
 
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Great green screen test! But change the topic title 8)
 
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Green Screen?!

Very nice indeed! :o :D
 
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Holy Smokes! I am awed into a revered silence by what certainly ranks as the number one piece of filmic material ever created by mankind. This was truly amazing and beyond the description of mere words.

Or something close to that anyway.

But really, great job keying. I wish my compositions turned out that pretty :(
 
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First off, great footage. I think you have to be in somewhat of a compositing mindset to really appreaciate this clip.

I have a few questions:

1. How did you track the hand greenscreen fooatge without tracking markers on the background?

2. What software did you use to track the footage?

3. Approximately, how long did it take you to get an acceptable key from the footage?

4. Is this your first try at compositing, or just your first try with the DVX?

Cheers :)
 
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The subject material isn't optimal, but as a technical exercise, this is very good. And I caught on that the foreground was tracked to the background shot, that was a good bit of trickery. Should fool everyone except certain DVX geeks who look for that kind of thing.
 
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Yes John, Action Movie is my handiwork.  Way pre-DVX days.  How very resourceful of you to find it.  :)

To answer the other questions: first of all, this picture should explain a lot:

http://www.cliii.com/kevin/node_tree.jpg

The software is Shake.  And old-assed version since I'm a loser.  But more importantly, the keyer that I used as an 'edge-keyer' (that's what I call it, although I don't know what people 'in the biz' call it) is Primatte.  So I imagine you could get the same results with any compositor with Primatte (and as far as I know it's made for just about everything out there).

The foreground shot was on a tripod, so it didn't need any stabilization.  I tracked the background (which was shot handheld intentionally shakey) and then matched the foreground to that.  I was lazy, so you can actually see a black bar appear on the bottom of the screen at some point cause of the shift from the tracking.

No this is not my first attempt at keying.  It's my first real attempt with the DVX though.

We shot the footage on the same day, about a half hour apart.  Even so I needed color correction to match the two shots (you can see the color corrector node second in the chain I think?).  It's amazing how much the color of light changes over the course of a few minutes in a day.

The only other trickery I did was a real real subtle rack focus.  You see the clip start with the hand in focus... then after a couple seconds it slips back to the house... then back to the hand.  It's really minor cause I was trying to mimic the actual DOF that might occur under those circumstances (which would be pretty damn deep).  But it's those little touches that help sell things.

There are lots of other little touches I probably should've tended to: some green bleed that would've been easy to fix, the black bar that pops in, the background was accidentally shot interlaced and thus looks like crappola, and the fact that I match-moved the footage BEFORE keying... which if you ask me is kinda retarded b/c then it added motion blur to the footage with the movement, which was subsequently keyed (should've keyed crisp then blurred, eh?).  All things I can worry about when it's something a little more exciting and worthwhile than a disembodied hand in suburban Maryland.
 
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Nice composite, though I could still detect some flittering of the foreground (i foreget whatever the technical term may be), which is something I have problems with very often with. The motion of tracking the image kinda makes that invisible, which is good.
 
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