grabs from my first short
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lincolnlog
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Re: grabs from my first short
yes, 2nd one is grainy, unless thats what you wanted, it needs more light. maybe if you want it dark, play with it in post. grain sucks (imho)...1& 3 look awesome, love them.
yes, 2nd one is grainy, unless thats what you wanted, it needs more light. maybe if you want it dark, play with it in post. grain sucks (imho)...1& 3 look awesome, love them.
Kirk Gillock
Rebel with a cause
Re: grabs from my first short
The grabs look great. I ditto the grainy coment.
What's this short about? It defintely doesn't look like a comedy!
The grabs look great. I ditto the grainy coment.
What's this short about? It defintely doesn't look like a comedy!
BLUESPIDER
DVXuser Ninja
Re: grabs from my first short
whats up with people smoking in these indi films? I see it almost every freakin time. Is it supposed to make the character look tough or cool. I'm not trying to bag on your film but its just too played out IMHO. I like the first grab though. Peace!
whats up with people smoking in these indi films? I see it almost every freakin time. Is it supposed to make the character look tough or cool. I'm not trying to bag on your film but its just too played out IMHO. I like the first grab though. Peace!
antomic
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Re: grabs from my first short
[quote author=BLUESPIDER link=board=Clips;num=1105145791;start=0#4 date=01/07/05 at 19:57:01]whats up with people smoking in these indi films? I see it almost every freakin time. Is it supposed to make the character look tough or cool.[/quote]
HAHA... D.U.M.P.S. 101
http://filmmaker.com/DUMPS.html
The "Dramatic Cigarette"
A character is having a dramatic crisis: So what does he/she do? Whips out a smoke and puffs dramatically as if to say, "Look, this is so serious I'm smoking." YES, people do smoke when they are nervous or excited, or under pressure. But there's no excuse for using the long, boring "drag 'n puff" scene as a lazy alternative to finding a more original way to express the same thing.
i thought that too when i first looked at it, but damn, the lighting in that first shot is one of envy!
[quote author=BLUESPIDER link=board=Clips;num=1105145791;start=0#4 date=01/07/05 at 19:57:01]whats up with people smoking in these indi films? I see it almost every freakin time. Is it supposed to make the character look tough or cool.[/quote]
HAHA... D.U.M.P.S. 101
http://filmmaker.com/DUMPS.html
The "Dramatic Cigarette"
A character is having a dramatic crisis: So what does he/she do? Whips out a smoke and puffs dramatically as if to say, "Look, this is so serious I'm smoking." YES, people do smoke when they are nervous or excited, or under pressure. But there's no excuse for using the long, boring "drag 'n puff" scene as a lazy alternative to finding a more original way to express the same thing.
i thought that too when i first looked at it, but damn, the lighting in that first shot is one of envy!
Re: grabs from my first short
This is the first scene I shot, and Its all internal monologes. He never smokes the cigearette. Its intent is to evoke emotion. I didnt think about it, but it its played out for sure.
The two people who wrote it were philosophy students, and its very dramatic.
These are all treated in post. The second one I treated very diff. than the other two. Just trying a few looks. I was attempting a film look.
This is the first time I have ever tried to light anything, and quickly realized its damn hard.
Thanks for the comments.
This is the first scene I shot, and Its all internal monologes. He never smokes the cigearette. Its intent is to evoke emotion. I didnt think about it, but it its played out for sure.
The two people who wrote it were philosophy students, and its very dramatic.
These are all treated in post. The second one I treated very diff. than the other two. Just trying a few looks. I was attempting a film look.
This is the first time I have ever tried to light anything, and quickly realized its damn hard.
Thanks for the comments.
D.O.C.
Carbonite Member
Re: grabs from my first short
[quote author=BLUESPIDER link=board=Clips;num=1105145791;start=0#4 date=01/07/05 at 19:57:01]whats up with people smoking in these indi films? I see it almost every freakin time. Is it supposed to make the character look tough or cool. I'm not trying to bag on your film but its just too played out IMHO. I like the first grab though. Peace![/quote]
Yep, you called it.
[quote author=BLUESPIDER link=board=Clips;num=1105145791;start=0#4 date=01/07/05 at 19:57:01]whats up with people smoking in these indi films? I see it almost every freakin time. Is it supposed to make the character look tough or cool. I'm not trying to bag on your film but its just too played out IMHO. I like the first grab though. Peace![/quote]
Yep, you called it.
darkavenger
Active member
Re: grabs from my first short
the first shot is the best, not only because it looks "storyboarded" nicely, but the lighting is just right. the second one looks like there's no light and little out of focus. the chess scene.... what is that brownish interlaced thing? looks like a little pee-pee.
great shooting.
the first shot is the best, not only because it looks "storyboarded" nicely, but the lighting is just right. the second one looks like there's no light and little out of focus. the chess scene.... what is that brownish interlaced thing? looks like a little pee-pee.
great shooting.
firstcinemapicture
Member
Re: grabs from my first short
paulsta, how about posting a diagram of where the lights were set, distance from subject, what size ect.
also, was this frame grab at full rez" really looked great.
paulsta, how about posting a diagram of where the lights were set, distance from subject, what size ect.
also, was this frame grab at full rez" really looked great.
Super Trooper
Well-known member
Re: grabs from my first short
Dude, if you like the cigarette, then keep it. Just because some people say they don't like the cig doesn't mean you have to scrap it. I would give you my opinion, but I won't because you really shouldn't give a sh!t. This is your vision. Stand by what you believe in.
Dude, if you like the cigarette, then keep it. Just because some people say they don't like the cig doesn't mean you have to scrap it. I would give you my opinion, but I won't because you really shouldn't give a sh!t. This is your vision. Stand by what you believe in.
firstcinemapicture
Member
Re: grabs from my first short
would love to see a slow dolly shot from this angle.
would love to see a slow dolly shot from this angle.
antomic
Well-known member
Re: grabs from my first short
although, a good point supertrooper...this is a place of learning. we all come here to see what "flys" with the population. sometimes something we thing is so great, is only great to us. which is fine if you're doing something for just you. but when you have to appeal to the masses, then you need to tweak and refine.
i dont look at that as "selling out", i look at it as making myself more marketable.
depends on if you are doing it for fun, or doing it to appeal to others.
although, a good point supertrooper...this is a place of learning. we all come here to see what "flys" with the population. sometimes something we thing is so great, is only great to us. which is fine if you're doing something for just you. but when you have to appeal to the masses, then you need to tweak and refine.
i dont look at that as "selling out", i look at it as making myself more marketable.
depends on if you are doing it for fun, or doing it to appeal to others.
Super Trooper
Well-known member
Re: grabs from my first short
I don't consider it "selling out" either. Its called "giving in". He liked it and then he changed it because someone else didn't like it. Granted, it's merely a cigarette were discussing here, but still, it's important to stick to your guns. If you don't like it Paulsta, by all means, throw that sh!t out. But if you do, KEEP IT
I agree antOmic, we should all give our opinion, because really, thats why he posted the grabs in the first place, to hear us out. But at the end of the day, it all comes down to what the filmmaker believes is more appealing. He found the cig more appealing, and instead of keeping it, he erased it.
It's a pretty safe bet that everyone making films on this board is an Independent filmmaker. As an independent filmmaker, you have COMPLETE control as well as final cut of your project. This is a luxury that next to NO mainstream and Hollwood fat cat is ever once afforded. A little thing called test audiences determine how your film is going to look like in the end. Thats what we are, a test audience. But the difference is that we have absolutely no control over you or your film. Although in this instance, it seems we do.
I don't mean be stand-offish, but for Christ's sake, stand by your art. That goes for everyone here. We are artists. Period. One day, if you get lucky and make it to the top, you may find that maybe you aren't so lucky after all.
But hey, I'm just another nobody with an opinion. Take it or leave it. Or take it.
Peace, Peoples
I don't consider it "selling out" either. Its called "giving in". He liked it and then he changed it because someone else didn't like it. Granted, it's merely a cigarette were discussing here, but still, it's important to stick to your guns. If you don't like it Paulsta, by all means, throw that sh!t out. But if you do, KEEP IT
I agree antOmic, we should all give our opinion, because really, thats why he posted the grabs in the first place, to hear us out. But at the end of the day, it all comes down to what the filmmaker believes is more appealing. He found the cig more appealing, and instead of keeping it, he erased it.
It's a pretty safe bet that everyone making films on this board is an Independent filmmaker. As an independent filmmaker, you have COMPLETE control as well as final cut of your project. This is a luxury that next to NO mainstream and Hollwood fat cat is ever once afforded. A little thing called test audiences determine how your film is going to look like in the end. Thats what we are, a test audience. But the difference is that we have absolutely no control over you or your film. Although in this instance, it seems we do.
I don't mean be stand-offish, but for Christ's sake, stand by your art. That goes for everyone here. We are artists. Period. One day, if you get lucky and make it to the top, you may find that maybe you aren't so lucky after all.
But hey, I'm just another nobody with an opinion. Take it or leave it. Or take it.
Peace, Peoples
Super Trooper
Well-known member
Re: grabs from my first short
all is well
all is well