Good sample of the d7000
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pulpfiction007
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That is very nice. The Nikon look is pretty cool....even the D90 (without the jello and stairstepping) had a nice gritty pleasing look. Now it appears you still get the look without the same amount of trouble.
Kit Hannah
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Yeah, it does look good. All of the cameras look good in capable hands for that matter
People think that getting a certain camera is going to make them a better cinematographer, like their skill is perfect, its always the camera's fault their stuff doesn't look good.
I do agree with discussions about easier control over things in certain cameras, but image is subjective, and give someone like Philip Bloom any camera, he makes them ALL look good.
Thanks for the link. The video looks great, but for a Nikon test, why did they make such a dark and gloomy video? Not the route I would have taken but looks good considering...
People think that getting a certain camera is going to make them a better cinematographer, like their skill is perfect, its always the camera's fault their stuff doesn't look good.
I do agree with discussions about easier control over things in certain cameras, but image is subjective, and give someone like Philip Bloom any camera, he makes them ALL look good.Thanks for the link. The video looks great, but for a Nikon test, why did they make such a dark and gloomy video? Not the route I would have taken but looks good considering...
Kit Hannah
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I think it's getting to the point where there are so many DSLR options. Multiple DSLR offerings from Canon and Panasonic have really taken off in the video world. I think Nikon was just a little late to the game and has some catching up to do. Anybody who wanted to shoot Nikon before pretty much only had the D90 option until recently and many people have switched around to different platforms. I don't think there are that many of them out there with people shooting video on them yet.
Cbrianchester
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People think that getting a certain camera is going to make them a better cinematographer, like their skill is perfect, its always the camera's fault their stuff doesn't look good.
+1
Although I don't know if Philip Bloom is the best example. His stuff is alright, but I have not seen anything in the realm of actually staging actors, capturing dialog, directing narrative work, art design, lighting (besides natural), ect... On the other hand this guy has some of the best "movie-like" stuff I've seen on the 7D or any DSLRs in general.
http://www.vimeo.com/14866982
The internet is a funny place. This guy shoots a 40-minute war epic complete with costume design, great art direction, great sound, great cinematography... yet he gets less attention and notice than a guy who shoots cooking and people walking around. I guess Philips stuff is more "relate-able" though. You watch one of his pieces and go "Hey I could go out and do that!"... where this guy's stuff is probably a little more intimidating, due to the sheer time and effort that you would have to put in to get similar results. I'm not saying Philip is bad or anything... I just don't think his work is the best example of "cinema-like" cinematography or shot blocking... more of a "cinema verite" style.
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Kit Hannah
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Philip Bloom is a very well respected cinematographer when it comes to DSLR's. He knows his stuff. Why do you think he, of all people, was called upon by George Lucas and other industry giants to show them the DSLR ropes and what they are capable of? He's that good.
http://philipbloom.net/films/
http://philipbloom.net/2009/12/12/skywalker/
The film in the link you posted, yeah, it looked decent, looks like some time went into making it, but I wasn't overly impressed with it. There are lots of films that I am very impressed with that were shot on DSLRs.
http://philipbloom.net/films/
http://philipbloom.net/2009/12/12/skywalker/
The film in the link you posted, yeah, it looked decent, looks like some time went into making it, but I wasn't overly impressed with it. There are lots of films that I am very impressed with that were shot on DSLRs.
John Caballero
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I have to congratulate Nikon and the guys that made The Collector because they have achieved something very positive here. The "complainers" are not talking about the litany of complaints that permeate the forums lately. Many complains that may be real, imagined or exaggerated. No talk about noise, banding, blue banding, red banding, dead or alive pixels or 23.98 running at 23.97 or viceverversa. Complains about why it is so dark and sinister or in and out focus, (well for many it is the "new style" of shooting to show the much looked after feeling of ultra shallow DOF), is what we have heard so far. And that is excellent, complains about substance and style, not little ants noise all over the shadows. This guys tell an amazing story of loneliness and finding love in a convoluted location in a far away country. And they tell it with a unique twist. And at the end the message comes across loud and clear. And the lighting and cinematography fit perfectly with the story and the location. Without a single line of dialog. That is very good filmmaking. Congrats.
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Kit Hannah
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That's because not many have puchased the camera yet. With success comes critics, my friend.
Just to confirm....you mean....people HERE on this forum, right? Because this camera sold out EVERYWHERE on the planet. To the point that people were price gouging on Ebay since before the day it launched. This camera has ASTOUNDED photogs worldwide. I understand that we're talking video here....I get it....but your statement needed a little clarification: "...not many have purchased the camera yet" ....is COMPLETELY FALSE. "Not many people here on our forum have purchased it." Yes....totally true. ...and, NO, I don't expect that will change any time soon.
I for one look at this footage and feel a little frustrated. I see some VERY nice looking shots in there. I agree with John Caballero. Looks pretty clean to me...especially for how low-light they are shooting....a bit annoying yes...but, I see some great shots in there....so....congrats Nikon. I also agree that they were a little late with this camera for VIDEO purposes....most people are Canon or Panny committed now, and I think it's a little late for this effort. That said...photogs LOVE this camera....so...again...congrats Nikon!
(To finish...) I am frustrated that this happened so late in the game....bummer. Looks good to me though.
Cbrianchester
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I think the main reason he was contacted by Lucasfilm is because his DSLR blog was the most established at the time and had the most recognizable"name" attached to DSLRs... that's marketing for you. He also, arguably, has the most experience... which doesn't always mean you're the best. He's good for sure... but it's all cinema verite as I said. This is a big difference between just shooting people and places, and actually staging set/actors with dialog and blocking narrative scenes.
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John Caballero
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I am ready to buy it and will use it for stills as well as video. I knew the stills were going to be great, now I am sure the video will be good as well. After using the D90 for stills for too long and the Gh13 for video I can't wait to get my D7000.
John Caballero
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Ya...I'm with you. I can't believe the shots (photos) I've seen at high ISOs. (12500...and still usable!) Ken Rockwell says it's over. (Like him or not...he's Pro photog) I have to say that this video has some STELLAR shots in it. I'm only concerned about it's usability in video mode. I like how on the T2i...I just dial it in....and GO! So...maybe you can share once you get yours.
Cheers!Nice.
Thanks for sharing. The one thing I like better on the first vid, is that it is cinematic in nature...DOP is there trying to achieve a look. So...I dig that....incidental footage is nice...but I prefer knowing that a DOP is trying to make something happen. Thanks again for the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6u7USxfSaw
Kit Hannah
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Sorry HHL, thanks for jumpin all over that one like a fat kid on his birthday cake. I meant that it doesn't appear that it is being used for video in the way that the Canons are being used at this point, the reason being simply that they were late to the game on the video thing. D90 was good but left some to be desired. I think it looks like a great camera though.
I don't remember ever saying he was "the best", I said he was good and I am a fan of his work. My point was that in capable hands, any camera will look good and Philip is a GREAT example of that because I don't see too many other people utilizing every camera they can get their hands on and doing films with them. Is he the best DP there ever was, of corse not and I didn't say that. I think Philip is one of the few people who actually attempt to utilize and show work shot across all different platforms and have helped advance the cause tremendously. Marketing or not, his work is commendable.
Efexone
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The D7K still surprises me in its versatility. Aside from the clean high-ISO performance, the ability to bring up blacks in high-contrast images without the side effect of significant noise is incredible - something I feel is more important, but overshadowed by the concentration on high-ISO noise performance - most new cameras will have have better noise handling then their predecessors anyway. The D90 produced sub-par results if you wanted to increase dynamic range in an image to a "HDR-like" look. The D7K fairs a lot better in this respect. Posted videos above look great. I'm using mine as an ENG camera.
Bloom is an internet celebrity who filled a niche in our industry early on to attain his status today + he's good on camera and know's his stuff. simple as that.
Bloom is an internet celebrity who filled a niche in our industry early on to attain his status today + he's good on camera and know's his stuff. simple as that.
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John Caballero
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This one looks really good too:
http://vimeo.com/18723280
We are starting to see morer footage coming out and it is looking better and better. What I also like is the many choices of excellent Nikon glass. Fully functional off the bat and with no need of adapters.
http://vimeo.com/18723280
We are starting to see morer footage coming out and it is looking better and better. What I also like is the many choices of excellent Nikon glass. Fully functional off the bat and with no need of adapters.