GH5 GH5S V-LOG L similar to V-LOG found on Varicam series?

[lonewolf2koc@hotmail.com]

The GH5S body only price is very good now - about $1.5K used. About to order one but concerned if my investment is worthwhile. I'm guessing lots of people are going to the S1H and leaving the GH5S in less demand and naturally lower prices. Coming from the Varicam 35 user, how similar is the GH5s if I use the V-LOG L to match with the footage shot w/ the VC-35, VC-HS and VC-LT? But somehow I have a better feeling that the S1H will match up to the Varicam series much better than GH5S with V-LOG L.

 

[TheDingo]

V-LOG L truncates the dynamic range at 12 stops, where Varicam V-LOG is designed for a maximum of 16 stops. The LOG curve for these two profiles is supposed to be identical up to the point where V-LOG L ends and V-LOG continues for 4 more stops. Colorwise you should be able to get your GH5s footage to look very similar to a Varicam camera.

Check out this post by Erik Naso on getting the GH5 to match with the Varicam LT : VariCam LT and GH5 side by side test shots, V-log, 120 FPS

The GH5s would be an even better match.

 

[lonewolf2koc@hotmail.com]

Got your link. Thanks. It boils down to whether an extra 4 stops of DR and higher bitrate on the S1H can be sacrificed. I'll be saving about $5-6K for the S1H body, new L-mount lenses and accessories. That's considerable. If it's $1-2K differences, I'd go with the S1H. This looks very appealing may very likely change from S1H to GH5S w/ V-LOG L.

 

[sgttom]

Got your link. Thanks. It boils down to whether an extra 4 stops of DR and higher bitrate on the S1H can be sacrificed. I'll be saving about $5-6K for the S1H body, new L-mount lenses and accessories. That's considerable. If it's $1-2K differences, I'd go with the S1H. This looks very appealing may very likely change from S1H to GH5S w/ V-LOG L.

Two stop advantage on the S1H, not 4. The S1 is a good option if you can't afford the S1H though. Same dynamic range in 4k and almost identical sensor as the S1H.

 

[TheDingo]

Got your link. Thanks. It boils down to whether an extra 4 stops of DR and higher bitrate on the S1H can be sacrificed.

The extra 4 stops is what the V-LOG profile is capable of recording, where the actual S1H camera is only producing 2 stops more dynamic range than a GH5s shooting V-LOG L.

If you want to keep your budget down you might consider the Panasonic S1 with the video upgrade ( shop around and you might be able to still get the video upgrade for free ) because this camera has almost identical dynamic range as the S1H ( it's the poor man's S1H ), it has the same low light performance as the GH5s, and it has IBIS for stabilized handheld shots. ( something the GH5s doesn't have )

 

[lonewolf2koc@hotmail.com]

The S1 family of cams only downside is investment of native L-mount lenses to take full advantage of the time lapse and other features. I have quite a few EF lenses but the EF to L adaptor real world review is so-so. And I also read that changing too much will accumulate lots of dust into the sensor. This is definitely a big problem with this type of cam in the past. Not sure if there's a lens changing bag to minimize dust from getting into the sensor. Most of the times you won't know until the footage is thoroughly reviewed. By that time it's too late.

 

[TheDingo]

And I also read that changing too much will accumulate lots of dust into the sensor. This is definitely a big problem with this type of cam in the past. Not sure if there's a lens changing bag to minimize dust from getting into the sensor. Most of the times you won't know until the footage is thoroughly reviewed. By that time it's too late.

I started with the GH2 in 2012, then GH3, GH4, GH5 cameras along with a GX85 vacation camera, and despite using my cameras pretty much every week I've owned them, I have yet to have any dust problems. Not one. But I am careful when changing lenses, where I have the next lens lined up ready to go on as soon as the first one comes off. ( I also keep spare body caps and back lens caps in my cases to minimize exposure to the environment I'm working in )