GH2 official discussion thread

RieniO said:
Daniel, why don't you just import one and if you don't like it, you sell it again to someone else in your country? If it's that hard to buy one in the shops over there it must be easy to sell it on eBay or something like that. Many people prefer to buy over the web from a source in their own country instead of importing. Or buy a second-hand hackable GH1.
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Oh, I mean, I don´t really need it fast, I just want it! :D You know, deep inside, we are all still children :D

They´ll start selling it soon I believe (Germany is few hundred km and they´ve started to sell it there, at worst I´ll order from there).
In worst case in January. But I just envy the owners at the moment :) I´d love a new christmas toy. And I always like to see and feel what I´m buying.

Unfortunately, priority no.1 now, is to buy a decent laptop for editing, since I´m fed up with having to drag client to work in order to show and make changes in the project. As always, money is the main issue here :D

Cheers
 
Canadian retailers are starting to stock the GH2. McBains Camera in Edmonton had a couple in stock. DVShop.ca has them listed for $1529.00 with the 14-140 lens. DVShop .ca only ships to Canadian addresses.
 
Bonpierce said:
Amazon UK has it now.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-DM...1697813&sr=8-1

I know I can buy a US plug adapter but can someone confirm that the will be compatible without frying something on it?

With 14-42mm Lens Kit - Black is 900 GBP = $1418.00 USD
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For the charger you mean? Those chargers are meant to travel, so you wont fry anything. AC Adapter is anyway not provided with that model. (unlike GH1)
Apart from that, youre aware you're buyin a PAL model, right?
 
vistek.ca has them in stock. just ordered mine today. shipping was free and after taxes gh2 w/14-140 came to $1728 - oh and the best part? its guna be here in 2 days
 
Ah, see I knew there was something I was overlooking, PAL. Thanks for the reminder.
I've been waiting for this camera to come out FOREVER!
 
Thank´s for the upload ;)
I have a feeling that DSLRs and GH* are worse in rolling shutter than consumer camcorders.
Sony for example, only makes CMOS sensors in prosumer cameras but it´s far les skewed, compared to GH2. Probably even with consumer cameras. True or not? :)
Zoomed fast shots are basically what I need to shoot so... and pan way faster than Dieter did.
 
Additional info to the PAL test clips:

All clips were filmed with fixed focus.
Otherwise when zooming and panning, the focus was hunting.

Also the files were first saved with PHOTOfunSTUDIO and then uploaded.
This is why the files are .m2ts and not .mts.

No corrections were made though.
 
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Daniel Krnac said:
Thank´s for the upload ;)
I have a feeling that DSLRs and GH* are worse in rolling shutter than consumer camcorders.
Sony for example, only makes CMOS sensors in prosumer cameras but it´s far les skewed, compared to GH2. Probably even with consumer cameras. True or not? :)
Zoomed fast shots are basically what I need to shoot so... and pan way faster than Dieter did.
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There's a fair amount less of chip to cover on prosumer camcorders with CMOS, so it's expected. What's apparent already, is using the ETC mode, rolling shutter is less, due to having less chip to cover... approximately 2/3".
 
Guys, got my GH2 camera yesterday, first thing i noticed is that you can no longer hold ae lock in motion video other than dedicated CMM mode. Sometimes, if I was lazy on the GH1 I would just hit ae lock, assumming I was close on 1/50 in Shutter priority, and shoot without going into CMM. With GH2 ae wont hold lock if you record movie outside of the CMM, anybody can double check this on there unit for me? In door am not wanting to go above iso2000, still seems quite noisey above. Smooth seems a very accurrate colour balance, much more than standard. Doesnt seem as nice to hold as the GH1, is it smaller? need to do the f.w update on my 14-140 as the GH2 really does have some ummph in af. Overall seems a good upgrade but 24p indoor-lo light high iso seems a problem with that line issue.
 
Adventsam said:
Overall seems a good upgrade but 24p indoor-lo light high iso seems a problem with that line issue.
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I more and more think, it´s not a good idea to go with the GH2.
Everyone who doesn´t have one says, it´s no problem, but everyone who finally gets the camera moans about the banding.
 
FelixGER said:
I more and more think, it´s not a good idea to go with the GH2.
Everyone who doesn´t have one says, it´s no problem, but everyone who finally gets the camera moans about the banding.
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i moaned for a bit but now i think that with decent low light discipline you can't have it barely seen even at 3200 iso, and even if you get "banned" (ha-ha..), this can be pretty easily solved in post..
 
OK, good news:
The aperture with the kit lens seems to be step less with the GH2 now.
I have tested it here a little and it seems to be very smooth.
Great.
I think the longer I have this little cam the more I like it (better than the other way around, right?) :)
 
itimjim said:
There's a fair amount less of chip to cover on prosumer camcorders with CMOS, so it's expected. What's apparent already, is using the ETC mode, rolling shutter is less, due to having less chip to cover... approximately 2/3".
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Interesting. Makes sense. So to take advantage of the better rolling shutter situation in ETC, what kind of lens do you suppose could be used that would again provide normal lens shooting? I understand in the telephoto mode one could use 16mm camera lenses. Presumably with an adapter. But are there any such lenses where they would still electronically mate up with the GH2? I would think not.

RBG
 
FelixGER said:
I more and more think, it´s not a good idea to go with the GH2.
Everyone who doesn´t have one says, it´s no problem, but everyone who finally gets the camera moans about the banding.
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I have a PAL camera and you can avoid it by shooting whatever iso at 1/30th or below shutter and the results are great in lowlight if you do this.
 
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kainekainekaine said:
I have a PAL camera and you can avoid it by shooting whatever iso at 1/30th or below shutter and the results are stunning lowlight if you do this.
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That´s kind of a solution but normally I use 1/50th because 1/30 or 1/25 looks to "video" to me. [/QUOTE]

kainekainekaine said:
But if you shoot 1/40th or above shutter at around 1600 iso or above the band is easily seen. It is very easy to see if your exposure will have the line it shows easily on both screens but only when you hit record
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On my 60D I never go higher than 1250. Is I better at 1000 or 1250?
 
some 24p question i still don't get: (i hope you'll understand my question)
anyone seen "the town" ?
the first bank heist scene reminded me of the one thing i still don't get. (and i find it very problematic)
the scene has some very wild hand held panning and fast movement shots.
apart from the obvious jellow etc i'll get by using the gh2 like that,
i'll also get that 24p jerkiness showing like crazy unless i'll be very careful with my camera moves.
i don't see one shot of being careful in that scene, and yet, it's not jerky, stroby, not even close.
in fact, on most hand held shaky film shots i get to watch, while they do have the "24p effect"-
it is definitely not the same as shooting 24p with GH2 - it is subtle and fluid.

does anyone get what i'm trying to understand ? :)

so why are people claiming this native 24p will be jerky the same as a film camera,
and if you know how to shoot according to movement speed table you won't see it ?
it's just not the same at all. (i've asked this before but now i have a specific scene as proof)
 
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